Buying A New Snow Blower
This is a list of facts to help you decide on the best snow blower. There is no specific order to this list but if you read everything here you will know more than 80% of the sales associates and dealers you talk to. I’ll expand this list as needed. Feel free to ask questions at the end of the article.
When you are done reading this article go here for the next step in finding the best snow blower for you: What’s next? Go to the Top 20 List
What Do I Need To Know Before I Buy A Snow Blower?
Please, please do your research before you buy any type of snow removal equipment.
A good piece of snow equipment can be a great investment and will last you many years if you make the right decision. Deciding which snow equipment you should buy can be a large investment in time and money and it should not be taken lightly. After reading this buying guide I hope you will have a better understanding of not only what type of snow equipment is best for you, but how it works and what it can do for you.
BEFORE YOU BUY A SNOW BLOWER, ASK YOURSELF:
- Is a snow shovel too much work? e.g. I get heavy snow, the kids are gone, I don’t have time to shovel, the doctor said, “No lifting.”
- How much snow does my area of the county usually get? Average Snowfall For U.S. Cities. Double the amounts in the chart to get your worst winter.
- What type of snow do I need to clear; e.g. fluffy, light, make a snowball (heavy), wet, end-of-driveway slop (extra-heavy)? Drifted snow so hard you can walk on the drift, or loose snow so soft your dog can’t dig herself out when she jumps into a drift.
- How big an area will you need to clear; e.g. driveway, walking path, sidewalk, down to the milking parlor, business parking lot etc?
- What type of surface will you be clearing snow? Hard surface; e.g. asphalt, cement, lawn, wood deck, pavers or any surface; e.g. gravel, lawn etc.
- How big am I? Can I handle a cheap snow blower with no power steering (can I lift and carry 50 lbs?) or do I need a snow blower that is very easy to use?
- Can you do the maintenance and repairs your own snow blower; e.g. Do you want to work on it yourself?
- Do you know how to look up parts and order them from your local dealer or over the internet?
These questions in part will help decide what type of snow equipment you will ultimately purchase. Once you determine the best type, then we will go shopping for the one that is best for you!
One more thing. If you have used a snow blower before you know that how far a snow blower throws the snow is very dependent on the type of snow. Most snow blowers will only throw snow at the “listed” distance when everything is perfect. In other words, most snow blowers will throw normal snow well, heavy wet snow ok, really light snow not as far and slush barely at all. If you step into a pile of snow and it splashes – most snow blowers are not going to throw that slop and will most likely plug. (There are a few that will!) If the snow is that wet you can always use it as a plow to push the slush off to the side.
If I can stress only one point, it is do your research before you buy your snow equipment. I want you to make the best choice the first time. Educate, educate, educate, yourself and you cannot go wrong. Purchasing a snowblower is a huge investment in time and money and it should not be taken lightly. I hope that after reading this buying guide you have a better understanding of not only what a snowblower is, but how it works and what it can do for you. Let this guide act as your starting position, pointing you towards the right snow blower for the season.
This article may also help: What Is The Best Snow Blower For Me? – All Your Questions Answered Here!
Before/when I buy a new gas snow blower what else do I need? Or, I used it once and now “my engine won’t start,” “my engine won’t stay running.”
I read dozens of reviews every year where an owner uses their brand new snow blower for 10 -30 minutes. The snow blower stops running and they can’t get it started again. I read hundreds of reviews every year where a new owner used their snow blower for the first time and loved it. But when they went to use the second time – it would not start. They bring it back and the repair person tells them they need a new carburetor and it’s your fault the carb is bad.
Gas Snow Blowers really are no more difficult to maintain than your gas push mower but they do operate under extreme weather conditions so it is imperative that you do a few things differently.
- Do you want your new snow blower to run the second time you use it? Of course, you do and to insure that it does I am going to suggest that you go out and buy a new sealed gas can. The biggest issue with owner’s new snow blowers not running well is using old gas or using an old gas can to fill it with. Why? If you are using ethanol blended fuel it easily absorbs moisture from the air. You can’t see this moisture in the bottom of your old gas can, but it’s there. You use this old fuel that was in the fuel can. This moisture gets into your carb and keeps the fuel from flowing through the carb properly. It won’t start. (Yes, I know the old mower runs fine on that old fuel)
So take your old can, pour the fuel into your car. Then hang it upside down so the spout is hanging down and let it dry out for 6 hours. Every time it rains or snows do the same thing.
Or buy a new fuel, sealed can. No Spill Fuel Can.
2. I would like you to have no issues with your new snow blower. So you have an old can and you go add fresh fuel to it and pour that fuel into your new snow blower’s fuel tank. The new snow blower runs fine for a while but quits and will not restart. the cause is probably some kind of contaminant in the gas can. Spiders, dust, and everything else that crawls/blows into the open spout. Those contaminants clog the really tiny – fuel-efficient jets in today’s carbs. (Yes, your old mower runs fine because it’s older carb has much larger inside ports and passageways))
So, like No 1 above, take your old can, pour the fuel into your car. Then hang it upside down so the spout is hanging down and let it dry out for 6 hours. Every time it rains or snows do the same thing.
Or buy a new fuel, sealed can. No Spill Fuel Can.
3. If you don’t use your snow blower often, say once or twice a year. Or, if you are putting it away for the summer I highly recommend TruFuel. Yes, the fuel is expensive but it’s a lot cheaper than a new carb.
For storage run the existing fuel out of the snow blower or siphon it out of the tank if you know how. Then put a pint or two of TruFuel in the tank, start the engine and let it run about half-throttle for 10 minutes. I have one snow blower here with a 208 cc PowerMore engine that I don’t use. It has been sitting for 2 years with TruFuel in it. I had to move it last month and it started on the second pull! I gave you a link for TruFuel at Amazon but you can get it by the quart at any Home Depot, hardware store, or farm store.
4. If you run your snow blower more than a few times a year then I suggest the sealed gas can – fuel stabilizer method. You need a new sealed gas can. I like this one. It works very well. No Spill Fuel Can. I use 2 tablespoons per gallon of Sea Foam in the fuel when I go buy the gas. (5 gallon tank that’s 10 tablespoons)
STA-BIL 360 works well also. Finally, in the winter if the fuel in my gas can is more than a month old I’ll put that in my car and go buy fresh.
Also, Learn how to drain the fuel from the carburetor and fuel tank. Most of the time replacing the old, stale fuel with new will fix your starting problems.
“My engine runs rough or won’t stay running when I open the choke!”
Gas snow blowers have a different type of carb than your lawnmower. Why? Because these engine run under extreme conditions and the fuel mixture has to be adjusted for the different temperature/humidity conditions. Instead of an open or closed setting these carburetor has 4 or more “notches.” You notice these indents when you turn/move the choke lever.
So, When you first start the snow blower you set the choke to full closed. Then when the engine starts you move the choke lever back one notch at a time until the engine runs smooth. If you open the choke all the way the engine will stop. Then as the engine warms up you may have to readjust the choke so the engine continues to run smoothly.
So, You have to manually set the choke to start the engine and also manually adjust the choke so it runs the best. By the way, The new EFI engines fix this age-old problem. Electronics automatically adjusts the fuel ratio so your engine runs well all the time.
Maintenance Schedule
Your new snow blower’s manual states maintenance schedules in hours but there is no hour meter on your new snow blower. The easy way to keep track is to remember how long it usually takes you to clear your snow. Then divide the listed maintenance schedule by that time to determine when to do the maintenance. I do recommend following the schedule or performing the maintenance every spring before you put the snow blower in storage. Whatever is the shortest.
What is the best type of snow blower for gravel driveways?
Two-stage snow blowers are best for gravel areas. The wheels are powered, pushing the unit. The front auger housing is equipped with adjustable skid shoes. You can adjust the skid shoes so there is a gap between the bottom scraper of the auger housing so the snow blower won’t pick up rocks and throw them through the chute.
This makes two-stage snow blowers the best choice for gravel surfaces. Single stage snow throwers are not a good choice because the auger/impeller touches the ground when moving snow and can easily pick up and throw rocks.
Will any single or 2-stage snow blower clean any type of snow?
In theory yes, in reality, no.
Single stage snow blowers only work on hard surfaces like your cement driveway. Single-stage snow throwers with 205cc and larger engines will clear heavy, wet snow but if the snow is wet enough they will only throw it a few feet. Snow throwers with smaller motors may not even throw it out of the chute. In addition, all single-stage snow throwers will only clear a maximum of 6-8 inches in one pass. The only exception to this is the Toro SnowMaster. The SnowMaster will handle snow up to 16 inches deep.
Two-stage and 3-stage snow blowers will handle deeper snow but have the same problem with wet heavy snow. The really wet snow and then a warm-up above freezing will cause most 2-stage snow blowers to plug up or just blurp the snow out the discharge chute. That’s why all manufacturers state “up to X feet”
Economy and residential snow blowers will not throw as far as heavy-duty and professional snow blowers. You do get what you pay for with snow blowers. In particular, there are no 2 or 3 stage snow blowers under $500 that are good.
The engine power is very critical for either type. The more horsepower the better it will handle the snow you get.
Is the snow blower’s throw distance important?
This is one way to measure the ability of the snow blower and how effectively the snow is thrown from the chute. The longer the throwing distance, the better. If your snow blower does not throw far you may not be able to throw the snow all the way off your drive the first time. When you can throw snow farther you will have shorter piles near the drive which will also create less drifting when it snows again. When it melts, the risk of run-off flooding your sidewalks and pathways will be reduced.
Longer is better but don’t worry about it throwing too far. The chute and deflector can control the direction and how far it throws if you need to keep it out a certain area – like your neighbor’s driveway. In other words, you can use the chute and deflector to put the snow exactly where you want it. Unfortunately, each brand measures this a different way so it really has no meaning when comparing one brand to another.
Is the snow blower’s tons per hour capacity important?
Tons per hour tell you how much snow the snow blower can move in an hour. In theory, a heavy-duty snow blower should move more tons per hour than an economy model. Unfortunately, each brand measures this a different way so it really has no meaning when comparing one brand to another.
What are the different quality levels of snow blowers?
You do get what you pay for IF you know these quality levels.
Two-stage snow blowers range in size from 22 to 34 inches. I divide the huge list into four types, or classes:
Economy: These are the cheapest snow blowers you find at the retailers and online. They have small engines and very few features that make them easy to use. These are not the snow blower that you buy your mom because it’s “small.” Craftsman gray snow blowers, Huskee, Troy-Bilt Storm 2410, basically any snow blower that now-days costs less than $600 is considered an economy model.
Residential: Some online stores call this grade “entry level.” This quality of snow blower will last the typical homeowner with a normal sized suburban paved driveway many years. If you live in the Midwest or any other area of the country that gets 60 inches of snow or less a year these are a good choice. Every major brand makes snow blowers at this quality level. Sizes range from 24 to 30 inches and cost $650 to $1200.
Heavy-Duty: Some brands call this grade Landowner. Sears calls it Professional. Some online stores call this mid-grade. Bigger engines to get the job done faster. Bigger tires to give you better traction. Some models in this class give you high-speed impeller, heated hand grips, hydrostatic transmissions, power steering, thicker skid shoes, ball bearings instead of bronze, and/or better chute controls. If you get a lot of snow or get snow more than once a week in the winter these will last you. If you have more snow to clear than your typical suburban home these are the best choice.
Commercial: Some brands call this grade Professional. There are commercial warranties and then there are commercial snow blowers. Commercial snow blowers are heavy duty snow blowers capable of moving 10 times more snow in a year than a residential grade machine and still lasting many years. Commercial warranties are restrictions placed by the manufacturer on residential and heavy-duty snow blowers. Basically, if someone pays you to clean their snow, you are using the snow blower commercially and the defects warranty is shortened or void for all residential models.
What snow blower features can you choose? Type, size, electric start, ease of control, type of transmission, power, and creature features like heated handles. The options you choose will largely depend on your needs, wants and budget. But one thing is crucial: make sure you get an adequate sized and type of snow blower to fit your needs. Follow my advice and do not underestimate, or over-estimate your snow blowing needs. There is nothing worse than purchasing a snow blower and realizing it won’t do the job for you. Likewise, it can be a real embarrassment to find the “Tim-The-Tool Man” model won’t fit through your storage shed door.
Some of the options like power steering, single stick controls, heated hand grips and hydrostatic transmissions, etc. may look good on paper but think about whether you actually need them. Don’t be afraid to ask questions in the comments below.
What does a good 2-stage snow blower that will last cost?
Cost: Baby Boomers: I’m sorry to tell you this but there are no “good” $500 two-stage snow blowers anymore. That last snow blower you bought for $500 now costs $650 to $1800. If you are buying a new machine for less than $600 or so you are not getting the quality you want. This especially includes the Chinese imports flooding the market.
Economy 2-stage Snowblowers: $600 to $800 depending on the width
Residential 2-stage Snowblowers: $650 to $1200 depending on the width
Heavy-Duty Residential 2-stage Snowblowers: $850 to $2400 depending on the width “Pro” models fit here.
Commercial 2-stage Snowblowers: $1800 to $3400 depending on the width
Please note: Price is not always reflective of the quality. If you feel a snow blower is priced wrong – ask and I’ll help you decide if it’s a good value.
Is a 3-stage Better Than a 2-Stage?
A lot of the blogs and review sites are trying to make you think a 3-stage snow blower is better than a 2-stage. In reality, it’s not better – just different.
Don’t be fooled by advertising hype. 3-stage residential snow blowers will move more snow than the 2-stage machines of the SAME BRAND but they won’t necessarily move more snow than a 2-stage machine from another company. Ask me if you have any questions about this.
General Snow Blower Questions
What is the difference between Home Depot/Lowes snow blowers and the dealer models?
It always surprises me how much misinformation there is out on the web. There is even one guy out there telling everybody who will listen that all snow blowers are made in China! I asked him one day if China now owns Ohio (where MTD is made) Minnesota (where Toro is made) and Georgia (where Husqvarna is made). I haven’t heard from him since….
Two years ago Home Depot had ONE Ariens snow blower that had different tires on it than the dealer model but as of today, the same model snow blowers are sold at The Home Depot and the Dealers. In other words, an Ariens Deluxe 28 will be the same model number and the same machine at both places. The models sold at The Home Depot do not use cheaper parts.
But….the dealers also have more snow blowers than The Home Depot. For example, the Ariens Platinum models are dealer only. For example, you can’t get the Platinum 30 SHO with the super high output impeller and 414cc engine at the Home Depot. Almost all of the brands are this way. The large retailers only want the more popular machines and most don’t stock the really expensive machines. For example, Cub Cadet has a line of snow blowers they sell everywhere but they also have a few additional Pro HD models that only the dealers can sell. The Pro HD models have more powerful engines and metal chutes. Another example, in 2015 Lowes sold only the Husqvarna 200 series but the dealers also had a heavy-duty 300 series they could sell. The 300 series had hydrostatic transmissions, cast iron impellers and big engines. (The most expensive Husqvarna Lowes sold was $1200. The dealers had more powerful and long-lasting snow blowers priced up to $2500.
Why should you trust MovingSnow?
You have many options when it comes to buying a snow blower and there are hundreds of review sites.
Why should you trust me? I’ve lived in the Midwest for over 60 years and have used or owned just about every type of snow removal equipment there is. I also owned a landscape company on the south side of Chicago and snow removal for homeowners, apartments, businesses, and commercial properties for over 10 years.
I’ve been helping residential buyers find the best snow removal equipment here at MovingSnow since 2006. I’m used to doing my own maintenance and repair so I know what equipment will last. I’m also lazy so I know the easiest and best ways to efficiently move snow. Between this site and todaysmower.com, I have helped well over 15,000,000 people find the best snow blower or riding lawn mower for them.
I’ll help you decide what type of snow removal method is best for you.
I’ll guide you through the 100’s of choices and help you make the best decision.
How Can I Stay Safe Moving Snow?
Moving snow can be dangerous. It can be a long way back to the house if you injured yourself moving snow. There are over 3000 finger injuries every year just from people trying to clear clogs from their gas-powered snow blower. In addition, there are thousands of people ending up in the emergency room because of overexertion, slips, and falls. Moving snow by hand or using a snow blower can be more work than going to the gym. Working in cold temperatures and doing more work than you are used to can be a dangerous combination. Take frequent breaks. Use layers of clothing to stay warm. If you don’t regularly exercise either by physical work or at the gym be very careful and take breaks to avoid overexertion. If you are the type who has to finish a job have someone in the house set the timer on the microwave or set the alarm on your phone to remind you to take a break. People with high blood pressure, heart disease, or diabetes should consult a doctor before working out in the cold, using a snow blower or moving snow by hand.
Whichever snow blower you use this winter, a few basic steps will help keep you from becoming a statistic:
- Take your time and take frequent breaks. If you normally work inside pay attention to how cold you are getting. If you start to sweat don’t remove clothing – instead go inside and cool down.
- Get familiar with how to use the snow blower, the controls, and starting procedure. Practice with your machine before it snows. If it is over 45 degrees when you practice only run a gas-powered snow blower for 5 minutes or less to keep the engine from overheating.
- Keep pets, children and other people away from the snow blower and the areas where you will be blowing the snow.
- Turn off the engine on a gas machine or unplug the motor on an electric model before clearing a clog at the auger or discharge chute. Then use the clearing tool, never hands or feet, to remove the clog. Even with the engine turned off some snow blowers can cut your fingers off.
- Protect yourself from carbon monoxide poisoning by starting and running gasoline-powered snow blowers outside, rather than in your garage or shed. Never start your gas-powered snow blower in the house.
- Don’t wear loose pants, jackets, or scarves, which can get tangled in a snow blower’s moving parts or get caught in the handles of the snow blower when backing up.
- Wear earplugs or other hearing protection, especially with gas-powered models.
- Wait until a gas model’s engine is cool before refueling.
Never be afraid to ask for help if moving the snow is more work than you can handle. Friends, neighbors and local agencies are great places to ask and find help. Don’t wait until it snows – ask now for the help you need next winter. Hiring a professional can be expensive, but don’t be afraid to barter with a neighbor or a friend. A dozen tomatoes from your garden now, a plate full of chocolate chip cookies then or trade for an item or other types of work can go a long way towards getting your snow moved. I’ve traded moving snow for many things over the years including dog sitting and a bushel of concord grapes.
Do I need to wear ear protection when operating a snow blower?
How loud is the typical snow blower?
Electric snow blowers are quiet.
Gas powered snow blower use air-cooled engines and are much louder. The snow blower itself is quiet – it’s the engine and the engine exhaust that makes the noise. Consumer Reports is the only organization that tests noise levels but they don’t post the actual data. Currently, they recommend hearing protection for all the gas engine snow blowers they have tested.
The 2018 snow blowers, in general, are quieter than ones made 5 years ago. For example, the Craftsman 28″ 243cc Dual Stage Snowthrower with Quiet Engine is 45% quieter than the previous model. Husqvarna and Toro also have models with quieter exhaust systems than older models.
In general – If you are concerned about your hearing you should use hearing protection when using all gas-powered snow blowers.
What Type Of Snow Equipment Do I Need?
You can spend as little as $20 for a snow shovel and well over $2,500 for a heavy-duty gas powered snow blower. The type of snow equipment you buy depends on the size of the area you need clear, the types of snow you get and how large the area you need to clear. You should also take into consideration the size of your doorways on your garage or shed and the space available to store it when not in use.
Here are some common ways to move snow.
Snow Shovel
A good 20 to 30 dollar snow shovel is designed to easily move snow. It is the most important item in your snow fighting toolkit and even if you hire someone to clear your snow I suggest owning a good one yourself. The snow shovels I will show you are built of a lightweight material like plastic or aluminum and are slippery so the snow doesn’t stick. In the Snow Shovel Guide, we will go through all the manual ways to move snow and find the best choice for you. For example, I prefer one like the one pictured that is about 18 inches wide and has a longer handle with a grip at the end. This shovel allows me to throw the snow without bending. If the snow is light and fluffy I can also push large amounts because it rolls the snow forward much like a snowplow and the “D handle” on the end let’s me get a good push. Snow shovels range in width from 16 to 30 inches.
The biggest disadvantages to a snow shovel is the labor involved and the fact that you can only move the snow away from your door or driveway as far as you can throw it.
Electric Snow Shovel
If you are under doctor’s orders not to shovel snow but you still need to get a small amount of sidewalk or driveway cleared an electric snow shovel or power shovel may be just what you need. Electric Snow Shovels are designed for small areas like steps, porches and small decks. Most electric snow shovels use an extension cord and are about 12 to 14 inches wide. They only take about 4 inches or less but are light enough so you can pick them up and use them like a snow shovel for cutting down larger drifts.
The cordless snow shovel has finally come of age. New Lithium power shovels will run 20-40 minutes on a charge.
The biggest disadvantage to an electric snow shovel is it only throws the snow a few feet, basically no farther than you can throw it with a shovel. If you live in an area that gets feet of snow instead inches this will not work for you.
Electric Snow Thrower
Single-stage electrics. An electric snow thrower is the next step up from the power shovel. If the area you need to clear is less than 100 feet from your house. If you only get a little snow each year, and you don’t have to throw it more than a few feet off your sidewalk or driveway the electric snow thrower may work for you. About the size of a walk-behind mower, single-stage electrics are also the lightest, smallest, quietest, and easiest to handle. Their electric motor frees you from fueling and engine maintenance. The most common is corded electric but lithium battery – cordless models are now available through most home centers. My friend in St Louis has a 10 by 30-foot driveway, and an 8 by 16-foot deck. An electric snow thrower is perfect for him.
Two disadvantages to using electric snow throwers. First corded models use 110v so you have to drag a 12 gauge extension cord along with you as you are moving snow. Second, both the corded and cordless models only throw snow 15 feet or less. Last year it snowed early and didn’t melt so homeowners with electric snow throwers had piles of snow by March. My neighbor eventually had to hire a skid-steer to move his piles of snow because his snow thrower couldn’t throw the snow over the mounds that built up.
These small snow blowers don’t have driven wheels and don’t pull themselves through the snow. You have to push the snow thrower through the snow like a shovel. They’re best for short, level driveways, decks, and walks with less than four inches of snow. They don’t work on gravel driveways or your lawn. The biggest disadvantage is they are small and their 11- to 18-inch swaths typically mean clearing your snow takes a while. Because you have to push them through the snow they don’t work on steep slopes. And, of course, the corded models are limited to 100 feet or less from a 11o volt outlet.
Gas Powered Single-stage Snow blowers
A single stage gas snow thrower is the fastest way to clear up to 6 inches of snow from a paved surface. In fact, many of us who own large two-stage snow blowers will also have one of these for the lighter snows. These 18-to-22 inch snow throwers are more powerful than electric versions and will clean packed snow and snow that has been driven on off your driveway or sidewalk. They are a good choice for level, mid-sized paved driveways, and sidewalks with typical snowfalls of less than eight inches. Single stage gas snow throwers are very simple to operate. Most weigh less than 70 lbs and very easy to handle and push around. They have few moving parts so they are easy to maintain. They don’t have complicated controls and transmissions. They use the rubber coated front auger to both throw the snow and pull you along. Any quality machine now comes with electric start so they are easy to start. They take up about as much storage space as a push lawn mower. Today’s gas powered single stage snow throwers use a four-stroke engine so they require about as much regular maintenance as your gas push mower. No mixing of oil and gas is required.
If you have a paved one car driveway that is only one or two car lengths long, you don’t get snows deeper than 6-10 inches, and you don’t have to blow the snow more than 20 feet this may be the right snow thrower for you. This style of snowblower is also popular for cleaning off decks and patios because it is light enough to drag up steps and through the house. Most of these are designed to use the auger to pull you forward through the snow.
Disadvantages of single stage: People tend to buy these snow throwers because they cost less than the larger two-stage but they really need a larger machine. They only throw snow 15 to 20 feet and efficiently only clear 6 inches or less at a time. For example, if the weather center forecasts more than 6 inches of snow at once you need to plan to go out in the middle of the snowstorm and clear snow. If the forecast is for 12 inches or more you will have to come back a second or third time and clear the drive after the snow ends. If the snow is very wet sometimes a single stage snow thrower will only throw it 3 to 10 feet. Because the spinning front auger on the gas machines contacts the ground they won’t work on gravel driveways or your lawn. The spinning auger will also scratch your deck. Because they don’t use a transmission to drive the wheels their auger provides only a small amount of pulling power going uphill, and they tend to pull sideways on sloped surfaces.
Cost: Gas Powered Single Stage Snow Throwers cost anywhere from $350 to $750. Budget $500 to $650 for a quality machine that will last more than a year or two.
Cordless Electric Single-stage Snow blowers
A cordless electric single stage snow thrower is very similar to a single-stage gas thrower except they do not pull themselves along. In other words, you have to push the snow blower into the pile of snow and it will be hard to use on the end-of-driveway pile the snow plows left. 
Be very careful about buying a used machine. Over the years the front auger will wear out and the replacement part can easily cost more than you paid for the used machine. Many homeowners don’t use stabilized gas when storing the snow blower so assume the carburetor on a used machine is gummed up or corroded if it won’t start. To have a repair center replace the carburetor can cost over $250. Most of the single stage gas machines built before 2008 used two-cycle engines and you have to use a smokey, smelly oil-gas mix to run them.
Gas Powered Two-stage and Three-Stage Snow blowers
Like single-stage gas snow blowers, two-stage models begin by using a front auger to pick up the snow. But that is where the similarity ends. The front auger on a two-stage then chews up the snow into small chunks and throws it into a high-speed impeller (It looks like a heavy duty fan). This impeller then throws the snow out the top mounted chute. This allows a two-stage snow blower to throw snow much farther than a single stage snow thrower. Because the front auger throws the snow into this “second stage” and that fan then throws the snow is why this type of snow blower is called two-stage.
Three-stage gas snowblowers – Three stage snow blowers work like a two-stage snow blower and have an additional front or top auger to break heavy snow up into smaller particles. For example, Cub Cadet three-stage snow blowers add a front screw that is advertised to throw the snow into the impeller quicker, allowing it to have more snow moving capacity than their Cub Cadet two-stage snow blowers.
Two-stage machines use a multi-speed transmission to propel the wheels. This allows you to power the machine into deep, heavy snow and large wind packed snow drifts easily. Because they are self-powered they also work on slopes, gravel driveways, and turf. On the downside, they’re relatively heavy and expensive and can take up as much storage space as a lawn tractor. Their gas engine also requires regular maintenance.
If you live north of Interstate 80 this type of snow removal should be your first choice.
If properly maintained most will last you many years so they are always a good investment. Quality units will handle typical 6 to 12-inch snows easily and even handle that 22 inch’er the east coast seems to get at least once a year. They are powerful enough to clean the snowdrift that the city snowplow leaves at the end of your driveway. Depending on the water content of the snow this type of machine will throw snow 15 to 50 feet so you don’t have to be concerned about getting too high of banks close to your driveway. This type of snowblower uses a separate multi-speed transmission to push the unit through the snow.
One of the best advantages of this type of snow thrower is the front scraper bar can be raised off the ground so you can easily clean a gravel driveway without throwing rocks or clean an area off your lawn for your dogs.
What Types Of Transmissions Do Snow Blowers Have?
Single Stage Snow Throwers:
Auger Propelled – Single stage snow throwers can pull themselves along if you lift up on the handle and let the front auger (rubber paddles) touch the ground. The wheels do not push/pull the snow blower through the snow.
CVT – One new single stage snow thrower uses a CVT transmission to drive the wheels and is designed to automatically go forward as fast as you walk.
Two-Stage Snow Blowers:
Single Speed – A single-speed gearbox drives the rear wheels and pushes the snow blower. This is found ONLY on the most inexpensive snow blowers. Trust me – it’s either too fast or too slow.
Friction Disk – This is the most common type of transmission used on today’s snow blowers. I won’t go into how they work here but they are very reliable and keep down the cost of your new snow blower. The brands usually list these as 5 or 6 speed and usually have 6 speeds forward and 2 in reverse.
CVT – Continuously Variable Transmission. CVT transmissions are sealed, take no training to use and have been perfected to the point that it’s just a matter of time before they replace Friction Disk transmissions. The Toro Personal Pace is a CVT.
HydroStatic – Hydro’s are the heavy duty transmission. Like CVT’s they are continuously variable and easy to use. You will only find these in the high-end snow blowers.
Geared – I list this just to tell you no one uses a geared transmission for walk-behind snow blowers.
What type of propulsion is best for hilly terrain?
Track Drive 2-stage snow blowers have a lot more traction than most of the wheeled counterparts. This is because they have a larger contact surface with the ground compared to wheels. A good example of a tracked machine is the Ariens RapidTrak
If you have a sloped drive but don’t want a tracked snow blower, look for a snow blower with large, tall wheels. The Toro Power Max HD is a good example of a snow blower with large, tall tires.
Single Stage Snow Thrower FAQS
What is a single stage snow blower?
With a single-stage snow blower, the auger (the rubber paddles you see in front of the blower) grabs the snow and then directly throws it out a discharge chute. With most single stage snow throwers the auger contacts with the surface you are clearing so it should only be used on a paved surface. It will throw gravel, rocks, sticks and other items you can’t see in the snow.
Single-stage snow throwers are ideal for smaller paved sidewalks, patios and short driveways. They are about as easy to use as your gas push mower, but they are only suitable if you get 8 inches or less of snow. If you live north of Interstate 80 consider a 2-stage snow blower instead. They handle slush better than the larger 2-stage snow blowers. When moving 2-4 inches of snow they are faster than a 2-stage snow blower so many homeowners have both a 2-stage snow blower for the normal snows and a single stage for the light stuff.
They typically come in 20-24 inch widths.
Home Depot Lists The New Toro SnowMaster As A 2-stage – Is It?
No, it is a single stage.
Go Here To Find Out More:Toro SnowMaster Review
Two Stage and Three-Stage Snow Blower FAQS
What is a two-stage snow blower?
A 2-stage snow blower uses two components to collect the snow and then throw it out of the machine. The front auger grabs the snow and then pushes it to the center of the front housing. It is spinning fast enough that it throws the snow out the back into a fan behind it. This fan, called the impeller grabs the snow and throws it out the top chute. The impeller spins about 10 times faster than the front auger so the snow is thrown faster and farther away than a single stage snow thrower. 2-stage snow blowers typically can handle deep snow and throw it 30 to 50 feet away from your driveway. 
More expensive 2-stage snow throwers use larger impellers, faster impeller speed, and/or larger engines to increase the capacity of the snow blower so you can move heavy, deep snow faster than the less expensive machines.
The auger on a two-stage thrower does not contact the surface so it can be used over gravel or dirt.
Is a 3-stage snow blower better than a 2-stage?
In the last few years, manufacturers have realized that if they put a larger engine on snow blowers that they can move a lot more snow than they could with the old 5, 8 and 10 horse Tecumseh engines.
But they also realized that the auger and impellers they were currently using also limited how much snow a 2-stage snow blower could handle. So each manufacturer has developed a refined system to get more snow into the machine. I’ll quickly go through the changes including 3-stage that have increased the capacity of the heavy-duty machines.
But first – Two terms you need to know
Ribbon auger – The open flight auger system mixes air with the snow to prevent heavy, wet snow from clogging the discharge chute. This system is limited mainly by engine size and impeller speed.
Open Flight Auger
Closed flight auger -closed flight, closely spaced front auger meters the snow into the impeller. This system is limited mainly by flight spacing.
Closed Flight Auger
Toro PowerMax HD – Toro uses an open flight front auger and a high-speed impeller. Toro has increased the capacity of the HD with new engines and the Power Max® Anti-Clogging System. (ACS)
Ariens Deluxe/Platinum SHO – Ariens has increased the engine size, increased the impeller speed and changed the design of the impeller to increase the capacity.
Husqvarna 300 Series – Husqvarna has switched from a closed flight front auger to an open flight and went from a 3 blade impeller to a 4 blade cast iron design. They also increased the engine size.
MTD/Cub Cadet/Troy-Bilt/Craftsman 3-stage – MTD has kept the closed flight front auger but has added a center auger that forces the snow into the impeller faster than standard closed flight system.
3-stage
They also increased the engine size to handle the additional snow the 3rd stage pushes into the machine.
So – is a three-stage snow blower better than a two stage? Each manufacturer has an improved the way to get more snow into and through these new high horsepower snow blowers. They will all get the job done faster than a typical 10-year-old residential machine. The 3-stage system is just one way of doing it but not necessarily a better way.
What Sizes Do 2 and 3-Stage Snow Blowers Come In?
Residential two-stage snow throwers come in many widths ranging from 24 to 30 inches.
20-22 inch – One manufacturer still makes a 20 and one a 22. All the rest now only make 24 inch and larger.
24 inch – This is a common size for your 2 car, 70 foot or smaller residential driveway.
26 inch – Get done a little faster.
27-28 inch. Good for 2-3 cars wide – up to 120-150 feet long. Many brands make high horsepower snow blowers in this size for areas that get heavy snow.
29-30 inch. Good for larger driveways up to 200-250 feet long. Will clear sidewalks in one pass.
32-34 inch. Snow blowers in this size get hard to handle and only work well on flat areas like parking lots.
Engines are sized for the snow blower and a few brands also offer high powered snow blowers for those of you who live in the “snow belt” areas like Buffalo, NY. 24 inch is the most common size and will easily take care of a 16 by 60 foot driveway. I’ll help you decide on the best size and quality you need for your area of the country.
How Large Of A 2-3 Stage Snow Blower Do I Need?
There are two main questions that will get you in the ballpark for figuring out the size of a two-stage snow blower you need.
- How large is the area you need to clear?
- How much snow do you need to clear per snowfall?
Generally accepted suggestions for the general size you need includes the sidewalks in front of your home.
24 inch. Two car driveways 20 to 60 feet long
26 inch. Two car driveways 30 to 80 feet long. A 26 inch will save you about 15% in time over a 24 inch.
27-28 inch. Two car driveways 30 to 150 feet long. A three-car driveway 100 foot long would be the same size.
30 inch. 30-200 feet. If your driveway is longer than 200 feet consider a tractor mounted snow blower.
32-38 inch. Large, flat, open areas like parking lots. 32 inch is about as wide as you want to go if you have residential sidewalks to clean.
Minimum engine size (in cc’s) for the size of the snow blower and the amount of snow you typically get per snowfall.
24-26 inch. 208cc for areas of the country that get up to 70 inches per year of snow. 250cc for “snow belt” that average more than 70 inches.
27-28 inch. 250cc for areas of the country that get up to 70 inches per year of snow. 300cc for “snow belt” that average more than 70 inches.
30-33 inch. 290cc for areas of the country that get up to 70 inches per year of snow. 350cc for “snow belt” that average more than 70 inches.
What extra features are really useful on a 2-3 stage snow blower?
Electric Start – If you have problems starting a lawn mower I strongly suggest getting a model with electric start. You may not need it most of the time but it is so handy if it’s really cold out or your gas is not fresh.This is pretty much standard now-days. Only the cheapest models and on Honda 2-stage snow blowers is it an option that you have to check for.
Remote Chute – A remote chute control is a lever or crank up near the handles that allows you to turn the discharge chute without having to stop the snow blower, walk around to the side, and then move the chute. This allows you to put the snow where you want it. This is now standard on all but the cheapest snow blowers.
Remote Deflector – The deflector controls how far the snow is thrown and a remote deflector can be very handy if the wind is blowing the snow back into your face. It’s also handy to direct snow away from the side of your house or so it doesn’t blow over into your neighbor’s newly cleaned driveway. All snow blowers over $700 now have a remote deflector.
Single Hand Control – This feature allows you to take one hand off the handlebars and have the snow blower still continue to move forward and throw snow. This allows you to move the remote chute or deflector without stopping the snow blower. It saves time. This is now standard on all but the cheapest snow blowers.
Power Steering – If you have a bad back. If you can’t lift more than 30 lbs. If you are small. If you have balance problems power steering is a great feature. Basically, if you can walk behind a snow blower you can use one with power steering. The steering is controlled using small triggers under the handles or it’s done automatically (no levers) on Ariens Deluxe/Platinum and Toro SnowMaster snow blowers. Models with power steering typically start around $850.
Headlight – Headlights help you see in the middle of the night or early morning. Some models like the Husqvarna ST224P
Heated Handgrips – If you clear your drive in any weather – no matter how cold it gets heated hand grips can help you stay out working longer. Heated handgrips don’t get hot – they just warm so your hands won’t start to sweat inside your gloves.
Electric Chute and Deflector Controls – A few models like the Troy-Bilt Arctic Storm 30 in. 357cc have a small joystick right by your thumb to control the chute and deflector. This is very convenient and built to last. A few other models like the new HondaHSS724AW use a huge joystick in the center of the operator’s console and are not that convenient.
Tire Chains – Years ago snow blowers used lawn mower tires and to get enough traction tire chains were wrapped around the tire. They worked great but tore up your blacktop and left brown rust marks on your cement. Today deep, aggressive tires are made just for snow blowers so tire chains are not used very often.
How Do I Steer or Turn A 2-stage Snow Blower?
There are 5 ways:
Solid Axle – With a solid axle both wheels turn all the time so you have to “skid” the snowblower around the turns. You will find this on the economy models. This type of steering will be hard to use for smaller people.
Pin Lock – This is also a solid axle but you can remove a pin from one wheel to make it easier to turn. This works for light snow but you lose half your traction. Put the pin back in if you need the traction and it then steers like a solid axle.
Trigger Steering – Commonly called power steering. There is a small trigger under each handle that you pull when you want to turn. The wheels/axle are locked until you pull the trigger so you always have the maximum traction – yet you can turn the snow blower easily. If you have a bad back or have a hard time controlling a snow blower this is a preferred solution.
Auto-Turn – These snow blowers have a locking differential that automatically releases when you turn. It gives you maximum traction yet is very easy to turn. No triggers or lever to pull. If you have a bad back or have a hard time controlling a snow blower this is a preferred solution.
Locking Differential – The Auto-Turn has replaced this method but there are a few snow blowers left than use one lever on the handle to release the locked differential. These can be hard to turn.
What’s the difference between “Power Steering” and “Auto Turn”? Which one is easiest to use?
Models with power steering use triggers under the handle to steer. When you want to turn left just pull up on the trigger under the left handle and you go that way. This type of steering has been around for years and the Cub Cadet, Toro, Craftsman and Husqvarna trigger power steering will never give you problems. If you have a very long driveway you may like the trigger steering best because the snow blower will go in a straight line until you tell it to turn.
The Ariens Auto-Turn doesn’t use triggers. It automatically releases a locked differential inside the transmission when you want to make a turn. It’s an extremely simple system and like the power steering is built to last. Auto-Turn is very easy to use and requires no learning curve. There are no extra levers or triggers to use. It works really well for areas that require lots of turning and maneuvering.
Toro is using the Auto-Turn on the SnowMaster and other units and they call it Automatic Steering. They have coupled it with their Personal Pace drive and it works so well that you don’t even know it is there. This system is as easy to use as your push mower. It gives you traction from both wheels when going in a straight line and automatically releases one wheel when you make a turn or zero-turn.
What Are The Current U.S. Brands of Two-Stage Snow Blowers Sold In The U.S.?
Ariens, Craftsman, Cub Cadet, Honda, Husqvarna, Poulan Pro, Remington, Columbia, Simplicity, Sno-Tek, Toro, Troy Bilt, Yard Machines. Any other name is most likely a Chinese Import.
Would you like to know more about the brands? Click Here: Which Snow Blower Brand Is Best For You?
Snow Blower Maintenance & Care
Do I need to use fuel stabilizer in my gas snow blower?
Yes,
I use fuel stabilizer in all my small gas engines. I actually put it in my storage container when I go buy fuel. Why? because I never actually know how long my small engines will sit between run times. This is especially true with snow blowers because it may snow tomorrow or it may be a month before I use it again.
Because I always use fuel stabilizer I never have to worry about bad gas or moisture in the fuel wrecking my carb.
My questions to you is. Do you spend an extra 20 cents or so per gallon of gas for fuel stabilizer or do you spend $80 to $250 to replace a carb because of bad fuel?
Can I use ethanol fuel – gas in my snow blower?
Yes,
You can use 10% or less ethanol fuels in all snow blowers manufactured after 2009.
Do NOT use fuels labeled E15 or E85. Some states now offer a higher percentage blend at the same pump where you get the E10 and non-ethanol fuels. This new fuel – E15 – will wreck your snow blower and lawn & garden engine. In other words – today’s snow blower engines are designed to run on 87 octane 10% ethanol fuels.
Yes, you may run ethanol-free or premium fuel.
I strongly suggest you run fuel stabilizer in any fuel you run in your snow blower! When you go buy fuel at the gas station put the stabilizer right in the storage container. That way you will always have treated fuel that will last more than a few weeks.
Should I lubricate my snow blower?
In general, today’s snow blowers use maintenance free sealed bearings and don’t need grease but read the maintenance section in your operator’s manual to be sure.
There are a few snow blowers that have a grease fitting or two for the rear axle and transmission bearings.
In the spring I usually clean the snow blower before I put it away and any parts inside auger and impeller area that have the paint worn away I spray with a lithium grease to protect them from rust.
Change the oil in the spring so the snowblower engine sits for the summer with fresh oil.
Read your operator’s manual. It will tell you what parts need to be lubricated.
Can I add an electric starter to my gas snow blower?
In general, it will be cheaper to buy a new replacement engine than it would be to add all the parts needed for an electric starter.
Plus the new engine will be quieter and more fuel efficient.
A new Briggs & Stratton 205cc, LCT Stormforce, or PowerMore engine with electric start are around $250 to $300. The parts and labor to change over your old Tecumseh to electric start will be more than that.
The only exception is if your old engine has two output shafts. A replacement engine is very expensive and the starter kit to add electric start is no longer available. In the case – buy a new snow blower.
Can I clean chunks of ice with the snow blower?
If you can step on the ice and break it up with your foot it may go through the snow blower.
I don’t recommend trying to throw pieces that are solid or very tough or larger than a tennis ball. At the very least you will break shear pins. At the worse, you will break augers, impellers, and gearboxes. I have seen impellers bent from ice and other hard objects.
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Andy
Hello Paul,
First off I would like to thank you for taking your time to not only run this website and do the research, but to also take the time to respond to user questions related to the products. The passion and dedication you have along with the industry knowledge is an incredible resource. As someone who is looking to buy his first ever snow blower, the amount of information and opinions is extremely overwhelming and it’s very difficult to know who or what source to trust. This being said I would like to ask for your opinion. After reviewing much of your website i feel much better about the buying process. I have narrowed it down to either the Ariens Classic 24in 2-stage or the Cub Cadet 2X 26in 2-stage. I plan to spend roughly $100 on a nice shovel to compliment the blower and a new sealed gas can with sea foam as I read you saying many people have engine troubles due to not taking proper care of their fuel. My question for you is do either of these models have an “advantage” over the other? I currently live just outside Milwaukee, WI in Waukesha. Looks like we average about 45″ of snow per year. I have a roughly 45-60′ 2 car drive; paved and flat. My sidewalk in front of my house doubles as a nature bike trail so its wider than normal walk but it is paved. I would say I have about 150-200′ of walk to clear. I am 26 and have a relatively physically demanding job so weight and lifting isn’t a huge problem for me. If you think my situation would call for a different model please let me know. Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated and I wish I would have found you sooner. Thanks again and I hope to hear from you soon.
Paul
Hi Andy, Thank you! First, I’ve owned a specific Suncast shovel for years. I used to buy them for my snow plow trucks and my help could never break them. It’s a combination pusher/shovel so it’s much less tiring than a regular snow shovel or scoop. Check it out here: The Best Snow Shovel, Ice Scraper, and Gas Can.
I put together a Home Depot product comparison chart for the Cub Cadet, Ariens Compact and Ariens Deluxe. Here are the differences.
1. The Cub Cadet is a great choice for Waukesha. It will handle the typical snows you get and also the 12-14 inch heavy snows you get once or twice a year. It has trigger control power steering – that means the snow blower will go straight until you pull one of the little triggers under the handle. That makes it easy to use for most people.
2. The Ariens Compact will also handle the snows well but it does not have power steering. It uses a solid axle so both wheels turn all the time – even when turning the snow blower. That’s not a problem for you but if anyone else wants to use it they may complain it’s hard to turn. In my opinion, the build quality is just a little better than the Cub Cadet but where you live both will last you many, many years.
3. The Ariens Deluxe 24 is just $100 more. It has a larger capacity 14-inch impeller (compared to 12 inches on the other two) and is built like a tank. If you put it side-by-side to the Compact or Cub Cadet 2X it will throw snow 20% farther and has about 20% more capacity. It also won’t plug if you have heavy/wet snow. It uses an automatic steering system. No triggers. Both wheels pull the snow blower along and when you go to turn just move the handles and the auto-lock differential automatically releases for the turn. It’s all metal including the dash. The only thing some people don’t like is the chute deflector controls are basic – a crank for the chute and a lever for the deflector. For me that is not an issue – it’s easy to use and won’t break. It’s one of the most dependable snow blowers on the market and will last many, many, many years.
Andy
Thanks for the reply Paul. I will most certainly be picking up that shovel now that you say your help hasn’t had breaking problems with it. I feel like I have been struggling to find a good quality shovel so that ends my search! Also, I just might have to jump on that Ariens Deluxe 24. My end budget is $1,000 max but I also definitely don’t want to cheap out. Regular maintenance and care should see me through many years so it is worth it. Plus it certainly is cheaper than a medical bill from a shoveling accident. Again, thanks for all you do and I will be a regular visitor for a long time thanks to you,.
Ellen
Hi Paul,
I just moved to Lake Tahoe. I have a fairly steep driveway with approximately a 4 car garage distance across with a turn around area at the top and a single driveway in the steep area. What would your snow blower recommendation be for this climate and distance? Thank you, Ellen
Paul
Hi Ellen, My first choice for the type of snow you get and having a steep drive would be the Ariens PLATINUM SHO RAPIDTRAK 28. If you are on the side of the lake that gets the 200 inches plus I suggest the PROFESSIONAL 28 HYDRO RAPIDTRAK model. They are not cheap but will always get the job done well and quickly. These are dealer only machines so you’ll have to go to the local Ariens dealer to get one.
Darryl
Hi Paul,
Your website is awesome!
I’d like your opinion on two similar 26″/208 cc Craftsman models that Lowe’s is selling this year. One is a track model selling for $1199, the other has 15″ wheels for $799.
Is one going to be easier to steer than the other (especially when my wife needs to use it)? Is the price differential worth it for a regular residential paved, non-sloped driveway? Are there any other differences in how these models might perform? We live in upstate New York (average snowfall in the 120″ range).
Thank you very much for your advice … Darryl
Paul
Hi Daryl, I’m going to answer your question in four parts.
1. The 26/208cc Stanley, Black & Decker (SBD) Craftsman that is listed on Lowes website is a solid axle snow blower. Both wheels are locked solid on the axle, there is no differential, so turning it is very hard for most people – especially smaller people. I strongly suggest that you look at a snow blower with power steering. I have no idea what tracked model Stanley, Black & Decker has at your lowes. The Lowes website and Craftsman.com does not list it – so I can’t comment on it.
2. I can’t recommend any Stanley, Black & Decker (SBD) Craftsman at this time. I’m sure they are good typical MTD made products but SBD has not yet set up a service/parts network for them. Since they have just announced they have purchased a stake in MTD I’m sure that they will have a service/parts/warranty system in place by next summer.
3. If the SBD Craftsman really appeals to you there is another brand that has the same products at slightly better prices. In addition, this other brand has a long-standing parts/repair/warranty network in place. Check out the complete line of Troy-Bilt here: Troy-Bilt at The Home Depot
4. Finally, The snow blowers you mentioned are really designed for “normal” snowfalls here in the U.S. 40, 60, 80 total inches a year. You live in an area that gets much more snow and heavier snow than what those snow blowers are designed for (I’ve been to Fort Drum in the winter!) You didn’t state what size of driveway you have but I suggest that you look at a heavy-duty snow blower like the Ariens Deluxe series, Toro Power Max or Toro Power Max HD. Please check out these two pages for more info: The Twenty Best Snow Blowers and What Is The Best Snow Blower For Me?. Feel free to ask more questions until I help you find the best snow blower for you.
Greg
Hi Ryan,
I was wondering what you thought of the Jonsered ST2361EP. Its a 24″ two stage, but instead of having the 208cc Briggs and Stratton engine the retailer had the manufacturer make it for them with a 308cc. Its going for $749.00 delivered. Thank you
Paul
Hi Greg, I don’t write a specific article on the Costco/Sam’s Club “Specials.” But I’ll give you an answer I gave someone else last week.
Jonsered is one of the brand names owned by Husqvarna. The other name they use on inexpensive snow blowers is Poulan Pro. That said,
Every year Costco talks a manufacturer into selling them a snow blower they can sell cheap – yet make tons of money on. It’s usually a brand you recognize but there is always something weird about it. In this case, it’s a standard snowblower – very much like your normal Craftsman or Cub Cadet – with an oversized engine.
So, if you buy it you will get a snow blower that will blow snow farther than your old machine but it will have no more capacity. You may also have more problems with breaking belts on that machine because the engine has much more power than what the snow blower was designed for. Since you bought it at Costco it will have no support. If it breaks you will have to find a Jonsered snow blower dealer to get parts or have it repaired. Costco may have a great warranty but does that warranty cover gas powered equipment? Will the replace it if it doesn’t start? Will, they repair it or is it farmed out to someplace that will let your snow blower sit out back for 6 months before it gets fixed?
Good Luck with that.
Matt
Hi Paul,
I live in northern Idaho and am moving to a rural property with a ~250 gravel driveway (some minor sloping and uneven spots). I have a budget of around $1000 for a machine. I’m leaning towards the Ariens Deluxe 28.
I have one major hesitation though…I’m hearing horror stories with Ariens auto turn system when dealing with uneven terrain or gravel. Do you have any experience with that or know if that’s been truly solved with the recent updates?
I appreciate your help!
Paul
Hi Matt, The issues with the first models were fixed two years ago. The transmission was redesigned including the axle forward a small amount. I have a Deluxe 30 and a Commercial 28 Rapidtrak here. They both have no issues and worked great all winter
Howard
Hey Paul, I live in Horseheads NY. Avg about 40’inches of snow a year and after 20 years, my Craftsman 21 inch wide single stage finally died and I’m looking to replace and upgrade with a 2 stage. My driveway is about three cars wide and 60 feet long. After reading a lot of articles you posted I was looking at a 24 inch Cub Cadet. Went to look at in person, but with met height being at 6’3, the handles are way too short to be comfortable. Thought about a 26 inch 2 stage but now I’m thinking let’s go 28 inch 2 stage. I’ve narrowed it down to the Cub Cadet 2X28 and the Troy-Bilt 2860. What do you think? I like the look of the airless tires and really like the heated hand grips of the Troy-Bilt for $100 cheaper, but is the Cub Cadet quality the better choice for reliability in the long run? You’ve used them, I haven’t. What do you think?
Paul
Hi Howard, The Troy-Bilt 2860 has about 8 HP, heated hand grips and no power steering – but with the airless tires it is very easy to turn.
The Cub Cadet 2X 28″ HP has just a little more power, LED headlights and power steering.
Is the quality of one better. No. They are both made by MTD in the same factory and all the basic components are the same – just painted a different color. The only real difference is who they market to. Troy-Bilt markets more to the resdiential customer who wants a good value machine. Cub Cadet markets more tward the rural user who wants all the extras and can take it to the same place where he bought his farm equipment for parts and repairs. (I am very surprised Cub Cadet dropped the heated handgrips when the added the metal chute.)
Howard
Hi Paul. So the information overload has set in with me reviewing all of the great information you offer. I narrowed it down to a Troy-Bilt 2860 and a Cub Cadet 2x 528 as we discussed on 9/20 As I’m looking at more information and what’s in stock at Home Depot , I like the idea of heated grips and power steering….then the whole family can use it (Yeah right!!). The Cub Cadet 3×26 or 28 has everything I’m looking for accessory wise. Then I think, I’ll get a Cub Cadet 2×28 and just add heated grips. Then I see the Troy-Bilt 2890 and say I’ll add heated grips to that. Some people love the airless tires,others don’t. TOO MANY DECISIONS!!! I have a three car wide driveway about three car lengths long. Living in Horseheads NY we get a lot of lake effect snow squalls , Avg about 40 inches a year with many 1-3 inch days, then throw in a few larger storms. Is a 3 stage too much machine? Do I just get a 2 stage with power steering and just add heated grips? Want to throw in any other brands to look at, I’m game for that too! Any further opinions greatly appreciated. Thank
You
Paul
Hi Howard, I’ve had very good luck with the airless tires so I went over to Lowes and read the negative reviews about the airless tires. I’m wondering if they had the skid shoes adjusted properly on the snowblower. Especially the review by Maryrug. You should have about 1/8-1/4 inch gap under the scraper bar otherwise the snow blower sticks on anything. Gravel, blacktop, cracks in the cement. If you buy the snow blower in the crate or buy one off the floor at Lowes don’t expect the skid shoes to be adjusted correctly. That said,
The 3X 28 doesn’t sound like the right snow blower. The 3-stage machines like lots of snow and they just splatter 1-3 inches all over the place. So a 2-stage is the best choice. Heated handgrips on a $1000 machine are hard to find – I just bought a good pair of ski gloves and put those warming packets in them if it’s really cold.
Besides the Troy-Bilt and the Cub Cadet take a look at the Toro Power Max 826 OXE. It likes those 1-3 inchers and does a great job if that lake effect snow gets wet/heavy. It will throw snow quite a bit farther than the Troy-Bilt or Cub Cadet and may be an advantage with your wide driveway.
Mary McGuire
Hi Paul, I’m so glad I found your site! I live in the metrowest region of Boston, and we have a driveway that’s ~20 ft x 50 ft and 130 ft of sidewalk, all flat. Last winter was harsh, and we want to get a snowblower. The problem is we don’t have anywhere to store it. We have an old fashion 2 car garage that fits our two cars with very little space left over for storage and no other place to store a snowblower. Any ideas or recommendations? The single stage might be better for us storage wise because we could keep it in the basement but not sure if they would handle all the snow we get. I found an Ariens Compact 20 at local store which was tempting too. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Paul
Hi Mary, You really need a good 24-inch snow blower like the Ariens Deluxe 24 for the Boston area. It will handle all you snow including that really heavy/wet snow you sometimes get. Since you don’t have any room to store it I suggest a small SunCast Glide Top outdoor shed. Your snow blower will be a perfect fit
Suncast shed: Suncast BMS4900D Glidetop Slide Lid Shed
Ariens Deluxe 24: Deluxe 24 in. 2-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower with Auto-Turn Steering
edward mattus
I Live in Central Jersey on the East Coast I’m done shoveling I physically can’t do it I want to buy something dependable and strong enough to deal with the heavy wet snow we get here often I have a crushed stone driveway that’s on an incline as well as the street I park in and the yard I don’t want to spend more than $1,500 I was looking at the Ariens Platinum 24 but someone told me it’s a great machine with a child’s gas tank do you recommend something else within the $1,500 budget also New Jersey doesn’t label there ethanol percentage so if I use gas from a station do you recommend premium fuel with stabilizer conditioner
Paul
Hi edward, It’s federally mandated that the fuel pumps label E15 fuel because it’s illegal for you to put E15 in anything other than your car. If you have questions about the ethanol percentage ask the gas station manager. That said,
The tank on the 369cc engine will give you a good hour of run time. I don’t know about you but after an hour of clearing snow, I’m ready for a break. Yes, the old tanks used to hold a full season worth of fuel. I think the Brands are putting smaller fuel tanks on ALL residential snow blowers is because today’s fuel goes bad after 30 days or so and they want you to add fresh fuel more often.
there are no other 24-inch snow blowers with that much capacity. You will have to go to a 28 inch to get something similar.
DT
What would you consider a minimum amount of snow to deem using a stage 2? I’m physically impaired & would I look like an idiot say using it for 3 inches?
Paul
Hi DT, No, you won’t look like an idiot. 2-stages work just as well for three inches or 13. Myself, I use a 2-stage on 2-3 inches or more. Less than that I just let it lay on the drive.
Charlie Garagee
Hi Paul: I see on some of your videos you comment on how far some of the blower throw the snow. I realize that it may have to do with the size of the impeller, but Is it also due to the power of the engine? Also, do the tolerances between the impeller and the housing play a part? If so, do you know which manufacturer builds their machines with the least tolerance?
Thanks for your time Paul, greatly appreciated.
Paul
Hi Charlie, Yes, Impeller diameter, Impeller speed, the way the impeller is designed (cups or paddles), engine size, engine rpm, snow offloading, and impeller gap.
The gap is based on the speed, and how long you want the snow blower to last. In other words a small gap (like the Honda snow blowers) will give you longer throw but if the gap is too small (like the Honda) gravel going through the machine will tear up and wear out the housing. If it’s not designed right the gravel will actually wedge into the impeller and either seize up the machine or bend the impellers. If you get it right (like the Ariens) they will throw a long ways, throw lots of snow, throw wet snow and gravel won’t wreck the machine. In fact, I’ve had baseball sized rocks in an Ariens and the way its designed they bounce back out the front.
Paul
Paul,
I have a 15 year old simplicity single stage snow thrower, the flighting is worn out and needs to be replaced, the scraper is worn out, with all the parts I might have $150-200 in repairs. It still seems to start with 1-2 pulls and runs pretty good.
I Iive in Michigan. My driveway could fit about 8-9 cars, and I have a sidewalks to clear on both sides of my lot. I live on a corner. All cement. I liked the single stage because it cleared down to the cement, but my wife says she was unable to push it.
Should I fix the old one or buy one that is new and possibly self propelled?
Paul
Hi Paul, A properly working single stage will pull itself along. So I have a feeling that your old Simplicity’s paddles have been worn for a long time. I’m not a big fan of well-used equipment. Once you start putting half the cost of new into the repairs it seems they just keep wanting more and more money…
I have three single stage snow throwers that people like have good reputations. Just click on the name and the link will take you to the page where you can read more.
Toro Power Clear 721 E 21 in.
Briggs & Stratton now owns Simplicity and they now sell snow throwers under both Simplicity and Briggs name. So the snow blower below is a new replacement for the one you have.
Briggs & Stratton 22 in. 205cc Single-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower with Snow Shredder Auger
Troy-Bilt Squall XP 208cc Electric Start 21-Inch Single Stage Gas Snow Thrower
Paul
Hi Jim, I have to assume that you are going to take your snowblower to a Toro dealer to have it diagnosed. Remember, if you bought the snow blower from Home Depot or online please contact them (the seller) first so you can get your machine to the authorized Toro repair center for them. It may not be your closest dealer.
Times have changed… Toro (and most other name brands) does repairs, diagnostics and warranty work through their dealer network. They no longer have a call center with engineers sitting around waiting for your phone call. So, I assume that you contacted your local Toro repair center and they pushed your problem with the muffler up through their district manager? Nowadays – any other method of trying to get repairs – like calling an 800 number can be fruitless and frustrating.
Please feel free to touch base with us when you find out what actually is wrong.
Michael Settanni
Hi Paul,
I’m replacing my Toro Power Clear single stage blower this year after only 6 or 7 years of use. The choke broke and between the repair and maintenance the estimate is $450. The single stage was always a little underpowered (the asphalt drive is 85′ long, 40′ wide at the garage doors, 11′ at the street entrance with a 90 degree turn) so time for a new and different blower. I live outside Philadelphia, which gets everything from 2-3 inches of slush to a nor’easter or two. Given the conditions, I’m debating between the Toro Snowmaster 824 QXE and the Ariens Deluxe 24 (as well as the Toro 824 OE and Cub Cadet 24). I’m inclined toward the Ariens Deluxe but do you think it’s overkill? Does it work well with the smaller snowfalls? The Toro Snowmaster seems like it would be great with slush and the smaller snows but also a little light for the heavier snows. Any help you can provide is much appreciated. Your website is extremely informative, but I’m still tearing my hair out.
Paul
Hi Michael, You have a pretty good sized area to clear and I usually recommend a 28 inch 2-stage for that size driveway. But, I’ll go through your choices first.
With the Toro Snowmaster 824 QXE you will be able to walk as fast as with your old snow blower and it will clear up to 8 inches easily. Just remember, the Snow Master and the 2-stage augers don’t touch the ground so they won’t clear snow that been driven on as well as your single stage. The poly scraper bar on the SnowMaster is also a “floating” bar so it will ride over cracks in the pavement well. Yes, the SnowMaster is a very light and can have issues pushing through wet, heavy snow.
You can adjust the metal scraper bar on the Ariens Deluxe 24 so it will scrape all the snow. It will handle snows from one inch of slush to 20 inches well. The large 16 inch tires allow it to have a lot more traction than the SnowMaster for the end-of-driveway snow and drifts.
I would like to suggest you seriously look at the Ariens Deluxe 28. It’s still easy to use but the wider machine will get your chores done a lot faster than a 24 inch machine. Like the Deluxe 24 it will handle anything Philly winters can throw at you.
The Toro 824 OE and Cub Cadet 24 are both good snow blowers but they don’t have the speed of the SnowMaster or the capacity of the Ariens Deluxe.
Michael Settanni
Paul. . .Thanks for the quick and informative response. Not sure how you find the time to run this excellent and really comprehensive website, but I’m glad you do. You answered the most important question: surface cleaning, which looks like it’s about equal for the Toro Snow Master and Ariens.. And thanks for the recommendation. The Ariens Deluxe 28 looks like a fine machine, but with both our cars parked in the garage where the snow blower will be kept, I have storage and access problems. I’m hoping your recommendation for the Deluxe 24 would be as stellar as for the 28, since I won’t be able to accommodate the larger blower’s width. Thanks again for the great work.
Mike
Paul
Hi Michael, Thanks for the compliment. Yes, there is a lot to do keeping movingsnow.com and todaysmower.com current but I like to do it and that makes it easy for me 🙂
Yes, The Deluxe 24 is a good choice. When you get it home adjust the skid shoes so you just clear the pavement with the scraper bar underneath the auger housing. That way the snow blower will clean the driveway well but not get stuck on every uneven crack in your driveway. Feel free to practice with it before the first snowfall. Of course, if you have any other questions don’t hesitate to ask.
Michael
Hi Paul. . . After your recommendation, I did my due diligence by “researching” online, looking at Youtube videos, reading blogs and now I’m even more confused. As I said, I like the Ariens Deluxe 24 a lot, especially its throwing distance and auto turn, but man does the company and its snow blowers get trashed a lot. In fact, I came across Unemployed Redneck’s youtube video where he complains about snow melt getting inside his new Ariens as a result of a design flaw. Not sure what to make of it all, but do I need to be concerned about Ariens products or are the criticisms mostly trolling? The internet is a swamp.
Paul
Hi Michael, Yes, you can always find someone complaining about something on the Internet – and some rednecks give the rest of us a bad name. Take some time and read through the comments on his video. You will quickly realize that the problem is not the snow blower but where he bought it from and his basic lack of knowledge about how the snow blower operates.
Basically, he tried to save a few bucks by purchasing the snow blower from some warehouse store in Chicago. It was shipped to him in the original shipping crate. He took it out of the crate, put gas in it and then tried to blow snow. Common sense would tell you that if you get an item is shipped in the crate you should go through the assembly/operating instructions and make sure the snow blower is ready to go. In particular, he did not read the section on adjusting the drive cable and impeller cable when you take it out of the crate.
So, if you buy your snow blower from The Home Depot or an Ariens dealer you get a snow blower that is ready to clear snow and work for years. As part of the Home Depot White Glove Delivery (free) or from a dealer – it is taken out of the crate and assembled. All the adjustments, cables, skid shoe height, etc is checked to make sure the snow blower is ready to go. You WILL not have problems like the redneck had if you buy from a dealer or the Home Depot.
Everything he said in the videos (there are three) is wrong. For example, In the video where he is complaining that the snow blower is riding up and not blowing snow, you can see early on that he hits something but doesn’t stop to see if he broke a shear pin. For the rest of the video, you can see one side of the auger is not turning. Eventually, he does state in the comment sections that he “may be wrong” but he never made another video showing his snow blower working correctly after he made the cable adjustments and replaced the shear pin.
If you watch this video I go thru the cable adjustments, how snow blower’s transmission operates and how it CAN’t act the way he thought his was.
Michael Settanni
Hi Paul,
One last question before I pull the trigger on a new blower. Because of the auto-turn feature, which I need, the choice comes down to the Ariens Deluxe 24 vs the Toro 826 OXE, both priced exactly the same in my area. At 26″ the Toro is a little bigger than I need but apparently it’s the smallest Toro 2-stage with auto turn. Based on build quality, performance (not consideringToro’s slightly wider bucket) and durability, which brand in your opinion is better? Or are both brands equal and it’s just a matter of preference? Thanks for all the good information.
Paul
Hi Michael, Both brands are great! I really have no preference.
The Toro has a single joystick to control the chute/deflector and plastic dash. The Ariens has a separate chute crank and lever for the deflector and an all-metal dash.
The Ariens will handle heavy wet snow slightly better because of the 14-inch impeller/auger system.
Jim C.
I have put only ethanol free premium gas in the Toro Snowmaster I bought 27 months ago. It sits in a new, clean, sealed gas can, and I put Stabil in it, if it is going to sit more than a month. It was always extremely loud, and I complained about it, but got no where with Toro. A couple weeks ago, I ran it for the first time this year. Next day, I fired it up. It ran for 20 seconds then died. Won’t even pop. The compression seems far less. I suspect a valve problem. So I resent the author saying everything is due to owners putting in dirty gas.
Gman
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the useful info on snow blowers. Really appreciate your effort in helping people like us choose a snow blower more appropriate for our needs. I have two questions that I hope you can answer for me.
1. Is my understanding correct about single stage snow blowers that these machines can definitely clear snow over 10-12 inches but it just takes a few passes when compared to 2 stage? It’s not that single stage will be of no use when the snow falls more than 10 inches or so?
2. Are single stage blowers easier to maintain than 2 stage ones?
Once again, thanks for your help.
Paul
Hi Gman,
1. Not quite. A single stage will only clear 6 inches or so DEEP. In other words 6 inches or so at a time. That means you will have to go out into the storm 2 or three times and clear a storm that’s expected for 10-12 inch accumulation.
Clearing a 20-inch snow plow drift is more than they can handle.
2. Single stage snow blowers have less moving parts but most single stage snow blowers are hard to work on because all the moving parts including the entire engine is covered under plastic. It takes longer to take the covers off than it does to repair a 2-stage.
Good 2-stage snow blowers (costing $700 plus) today last a long time without any real maintenance other than changing the oil and making sure you are using clean, stabilized fuel.
Gman
However, in your top 20 snow blowers of 2017 reviews, you mention in #7 Toro SnowMaster 724QXE, which is single stage that it will clear from 2-14 inches of snow. How come this single stage can clear more than 6 inches of snow and others can’t? Thanks.
Paul
Hi Gman, Ok, Now we are getting somewhere! The SnowMaster is unique. All the other single stage snow throwers have about a 6-inch paddle/auger and front opening of 6 to 10 inches. So any snow deeper than that and they can’t get the snow into the front of the snow thrower easily.
The SnowMaster 724QXE and it’s larger horsepower sibling, the SnowMaster 824QXE have an 18-inch high opening and a 12-inch front auger/paddle. This allows the SnowMaster to go thru deeper snows. With the large front auger/paddle, it also throws snow better and farther than all the other single-stage snow blowers. Please click on this link and a selection of articles will come up so you can read more about how unique it is for a single stage. Search: SnowMaster
The SnowMaster is also unique from all the other single stage snowthrowers in that it is self-propelled, has a 4-way chute and everything is easy to work on.
Doreen
Hi Paul, I found you page very informative and have come back to it a few times. I suspect you will give me the same recommendation as the last person to comment, Nora, but I wanted to ask to be sure. I am looking for a snowblower I can maneuver myself. I’m mid 50’s, female, in good condition, but top out at 5′ and about 105 lbs so I’m worried about spending a lot on a snow blower that I cannot handle. I live in NY and tired of spending 4 hours shoveling out. My driveway can’t be plowed and no luck hiring any one to do it for me. I have a long, steep downward sloping paved driveway. It is at least 3 car lengths long, and wider at the bottom where 2 cars can be squeezed side by side, than at the top where it is only wide enough for one car. I already plan on wearing snow boot spikes to keep from slipping, and I need something easy to use that can go up and down the hill and that I can control. I would love to have an electric, but there don’t seem to be any options for that. I would need to buy from a dealer I believe to make sure I keep it serviced, and to help with any questions. I do have a garage for storage that I can make some space in. I’m wondering if there is a snow blower that would meet my needs, or if I should just give up and keep shoveling. I suspect I will have sticker shock, but I would love to get it done faster and without the back ache. I did get an electric snow shovel, but it’s just not enough for the snow we get. Thank you. Doreen
Paul
Hi Doreen, Every situation is unique and where you live, how much snow you get, and many other factors should be used to find the best snow blower for you. In Nora’s situation, she gets considerably more snow than you do, has a very limited dealer base and Amercian made snow blowers sold in Canada are very expensive. (30% upcharge) That said,
A good, long-lasting, easy to use snow blower will cost $700-1000. Buying from a dealer is a great idea because they can teach you how to use it and help you maintain it over the years. I’m going to give you three choices. You can purchase any of these at a local dealer. All have power steering which will make them very easy to use for you. All have electric start. Each one has it’s own positive and negative features.
If the dealer tries to suggest a different snow blower for you feel free to ask me before you buy. A dealer may have a setup and/or delivery fee that’s additional to the prices I’ll post.
1. My first choice is the Toro SnowMaster 724 QXE. $699 at Home Depot I’ve sold a lot of these to people in New York and Long Island and they love it! It’s very lightweight. It handles very well for smaller people and it has plenty of power. It’s biggest weakness for you though is its weight. It will clear snow going down your driveway well but it may not have enough traction to clear snow going up the hill all the time. In certain situations you may have to clear snow going down, then run it back to the top on the surface you just cleared – and repeat. I could live with that since your drive is only 3 cars long but you’ll have to decide yourself. You may also have to spend a little more time clearing the snow plow drift at the end of your driveway. Other than that it will clear 2-6 inches of snow a lot faster than the other two snow blower I am going to suggest.
2. Ariens Deluxe 24. ($999 at Home Depot) This snow blower has higher handles than the other two I’m listing for you so please play with it on the showroom floor first. Other than that, this snow blower will handle any snow you get, go up and down your hill easily and will throw the snow all the way across the street. It’s a heavy-duty, long-lasting snow blower but is balanced so that it is very easy to use.
3. Cub Cadet 24 in. 208cc 2X 24 ($799 at Home Depot). This is the snow blower I recommend most often for smaller people. Its handles are lower than the other two, it has adequate power, and is a good dependable snow blower. It’s biggest disadvantage for you is that it is not the best snow blower for heavy, wet snow. If it clogs you will have to turn off the snow blower – use the clearing tool to clear it – and then use the pull cord to start it back up. It will probably clog clearing snow like you got the last few days and may clog often on the heavy, wet snow the city snow plow leaves you.
Doreen
Hi Paul, Thank you for your fast reply. I will start at the top of your list at the store. This last storm I had probably 10-12 inches and more at the end of the drive from the plow. These will handle snow deeper than 6 inches right? Thanks!
Paul
Hi Doreen, yes, No 1 will handle 18 inches, No 2 and 3 at least 20 inches.
nora mackinnon
hi Paul,,I live in Cape Breton,Canada.I am 54,live alone,and get quite a bit of snow.Looking for a snow blower that is easy to move.My driveway has a incline,length around 25 to 30 feet.Snow here is very heavy and wet,as I live very close to ocean. Never used one before,always shoveled.However due to health reasons,this is no longer something I can do.Would like one that is easy to look after,start,and store.I live 2.5 hours from any place that could fix a problem,so something that is going to last would be great.thank you.
Paul
Hi Nora, My first choice is the Toro Power Max 724 OE 2-Stage Snow Blower with Electric Start. It will handle all the snow you get, go up and down the incline well and last you many, many years. Home Depot shows that they have them in stock at the Sydney store. Here is the link to check them out: Toro Power Max 724 OE 2-Stage Snow Blower with Electric Start
My second choice is the Ariens Deluxe 24. It’s also very dependable and will do the job. It looks like The Home Depot store in CHARLOTTETOWN #7173 has them in stock. The Sydney store is out of stock but you may want to call and see if they can get another one in. Here is the link to check it out: Ariens Compact 24 24-inch 2-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower
nora mackinnon
Thank you Paul,have a great day.Will let you know how I got along.Wonderful site,great infor.
gary
is a Columbia 26 inch 277 cc snow blower any good
Paul
Hi Gary, I am going to assume that the Columbia snow blower you are referring to is the CA226HD. Yes, It’s essentially the same as the NEW 2X 26″ HP Cub Cadet with a larger engine. Both are made by MTD. I like the NEW 2X 26″ HP a lot so I can also recommend the Columbia.
FYI. Columbia is MTD’s Canadian Brand.
Lady Borton
Paul–
Your “Twenty Best Snowblowers” and this site are terrific. THANK you.
Question: I am 75 years old, a woman, and weigh 120 pounds. I’m in good shape, have shoveled my drive, and paint my house (two stories) in different weather.
I live in northern New Hampshire (lots of snow!).
My driveway is asphalt, short (about 60 feet), with a turn-around large enough to back and fill my 50-year-old VW Beetle and pop it into the garage.
What snowblower would you recommend for someone like myself, who is strong but not hefty?
With thanks in advance,
Lady
Paul
Hi Lady, With the amount of snow you get you really need a 2-stage snow blower. You should also get one with power steering because you drive that type of snow blower and you don’t have to use your back to turn it. There are a few 24-inch machines that are very easy to operate and two that have handlebars that are lower so people under 5’5″ can operate them well.
No 3 on the list. Husqvarna ST224P. It features power steering and adjustable height handles. I suggest having the dealer set it up so the handles are in the lowest position.
No. 15 on the list above. Cub Cadet 2X-24. It also has power steering and a low handle height. Both of these snow blowers have been around for a while and have a good reputation.
Heidi
Hi Paul,
Just found your site while looking at snowblowers (I’m the family researcher) and love all the information you’ve laid out in your site. I appreciate the details! I’ve never used a snowblower before and haven’t been responsible for maintaining our other small engine equipment so the more info the better.
I’m in North Central MA and our area tends to get dumped on more than the big cities so we average @ 76″/yr. We were gifted a handed down Craftsman 26in 9hp and it barely made it through last winter. Apparently it’s too much of a pain to fix/diagnose for the local repair shops so we’re opting for a new machine.
We snow blow our yard, as we can’t agree on paving vs using something like grass pavers, so we have a grab bag of surfaces we clear (some mostly intact pavement, gravel, and dirt/turf). I’d say our “driveway” is about 150′ and we have areas that we park on the lower end that fits 2 cars and the upper area would fit 3. It’s sloped towards the road, not sure of the degree but I have a hard time getting to the top in my 2wd car in the snow/ice.
I want something that will last with little to no maintenance (or won’t suffer too greatly from some neglect), and that I can maneuver without too much of a struggle… because if it’s gong to be a p.i.t.a. I’ll just shovel. I’m not afraid of physical labor but I’d like something efficient so I’m not spending all my after (or before) work time moving snow.
Is $1000 a decent price point? Or should I look at a bit more? Size isn’t a huge issue, we have a barn.
Thanks so much for your input!
Paul
Hi Heidi, Thanks for the complete description of your property. That helps a lot in getting you the right snow blower.
Yes, repairs on a used snow blower that won’t start or run properly can easily cost $250-400. And then you still have an old P.O.S. that most likely won’t start next year.
Since you have no experience with snow blowers I am going to suggest that you buy your new machine at a local servicing dealer instead of a box store. They will set up the snow blower correctly, test it to make sure everything works. They will be glad you show you how to start and operate it. The snow blowers I’ll suggest really don’t require much maintenance at all but having a local dealer will help a lot if you do have an issue with it over the next 20 years. Don’t be afraid to go to a couple dealers and then pick the one you trust the most.
All of these snow blowers are very easy to use and will save you a lot of time compared to the old Craftsman. They have electric start but once you get used to starting them they’ll start just as easily with the pull start. They are all 2-stage units and can handle all the areas you have to clear.
Click on the links below to read more and use the dealer locator to find a dealer near you.
First choice. Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO. This snow blower will throw snow 2-3 times farther than the old Craftsman and is a high-capacity snow blower – meaning you will get done a lot faster than you did with the Craftsman. It won’t plug on wet, heavy snow and will handle deep drifts very well. It’s very easy to use. It’s about $1199 and expect the dealers to charge a little ($50-100) for set up and delivery.
Second choice. Ariens Deluxe 28. A little less power but it will still throw snow twice as far as the old Craftsman. It’s about $1099 plus setup charges.
Third choice. Toro PowerMaster 826 OXE Model 37797. This model has black tire rims. The chute controls are the easiest to use in the industry. You’ll get done in about the same time as the Deluxe 28 above. It will throw snow twice as far as the old Craftsman. About $1099.
There are a couple of other snow blowers that will also work well and last a long time but they are more expensive. If you are interested write back and I can go over them.
Feel free to ask any other questions. If a dealer tries to steer you to another brand or model feel free to ask me and I’ll help you make the best-informed decision.
Heidi
Wow, you’re quick like a bunny! Lol.
We happen to have a Arien’s dealer riiight down the street.
I was looking at the Arien’s 30 EFI at HD/Lowes but wasn’t sure if that was overkill. I like EFI, I figure that’s a little more fool proof than a carb engine but didn’t see any other models with it. I also saw smaller sized blowers with tracks instead of tires but wasn’t sure if that was a little much too, or that it would be a total nightmare to move if it died.
Ultimately I’m up for spending a few hundred more if it’ll make my life easier and will last longer but if it’s just overkill I’ll keep my $
Really appreciate you taking the time to answer me 🙂
Paul
Hi Heidi, Yes, EFI is the future because that engine will run today’s fuels without issues. The Ariens EFI is really nice because you just set a dial to the engine speed you want and the machine does the rest. No messing with choke controls, etc. I’m hoping all manufacturers will move to EFI in the next 5 years.
The only issue most people are having with the EFI is it adds $250-300 to the cost. When you think about it though – that’s only one carb servicing at a repair shop.
Track models like the Ariens Compact are VERY hard to turn. Tracked models like the Troy-Bilt and Honda are VERY slow. If you have traction issues Ariens does make chains for their snow blowers.
If you decide not to spend the extra and go with the Deluxe 28 SHO please buy a new sealed gas can. When you go buy your fuel put 2 tablespoons (1 ounce) of Sea Foam per gallon right when you buy the fuel. You won’t have any starting problems with it for many years.
You need a new sealed gas can. I like this one. It works very well. No Spill Fuel Can. I put use 2 tablespoons per gallon of Sea Foam in the fuel when I go buy the gas. (5 gallon tank that’s 10 tablespoons)
Eugene
Hi Paul, I am trying to find the right snow thrower for me. I live in Michigan (Metro Detroit area, NOT up North) and have about a 3,000sq ft brick paver driveway. I also have a dog and might want to clear off a small patch of grass for him to go to the bathroom on. I am not in a big rush to get the job done and don’t mind going out a few times during the storm if needed. I have a budget of $800 or less and from doing some research have narrowed it down to: 1) Husqvarna ST224 for $800, 2) Power Smart DB7651BS-24″ 2-Stage Briggs and Stratton Gas Snow Blower for $617, 3) Briggs and Stratton 1696619 for $765 or 4) Briggs & Stratton 1696614 for $796.
I am leaning towards either the Husqvarna or the Briggs & Stratton 1696619, but I am not sure if I need the 27in wide cleaning path and the bigger engine. The Briggs and Stratton is more powerful and cheaper than the Husqvarna but the Husqvarna might be a better machine? Any other snow throwers you would recommend instead? Can I get away with a single stage thrower? I have storage space, but not unlimited storage space and I have a lot of other toys.
Thank you in advance for your advice.
Paul
Hi Eugene, In that price range there is also the Craftsman 88173 24″ at $599 and the Ariens Classic at $699. They compare to the Husqvarna for reliability, service and parts availability.
There is also the Craftsman 88640 24″ at $799. It has the same features of the 88173 Craftsman plus power steering!
Id stay away from the Power Smart because all parts have to be ordered through their website and finding someone to work on it can be a real challenge.
john
Hi Paul,
I am about to buy either a Toro 38801 or the Toro 38802. Is it worth upgrading from the 265cc motor to the 302cc motor? It looks like the only difference between the two is the motor. I don’t mind paying the additional $300 upgrade. Thanks. John.
Paul
Hi John, Where you live you don’t need the extra power for the amount of snow you get but the larger engine will allow you get done a little faster. So, if cost is not a factor I’d go with the larger engine.
Atrey
Hi Paul,
I am in northern NJ (Morristown/Parsippany area) and looking for recommendation on a decent 2-stage/3-stage blower. I was looking at Troy-Bilt Vortex 2490 3-stage with 277cc snow blower. I have a 2-car 60′ driveway and and 1-car 50′ side driveway 42’x3′ walkway connecting driveway and the main entrance. Can you let me know if the Troy-Bilt I have narrowed down based on some basic research is good enough or can you recommend something better.
Paul
Hi Atrey, The three-stage is actually overkill for your area. The Storm™ 2460 Snow Thrower and Storm™ 2625 Snow Thrower will give you the snow clearing ability you need at a much lower price than the three stage.
Atrey
Thank you Paul. Any other suggestions besides Troy-Bilt? Is there an Ariens model I should consider? I want compare what Homedepot and Lowes sales locally. Have pretty good experience with everything at Homedepot and Lowes so would rather stick with them.
Paul
Hi Atrey, The Troy-Bilts are a Lowes. An Ariens Classic is comparable. An Ariens Compact is also about the same. The Ariens Deluxe 24 and Deluxe 28 will last you many, many years. I’d also look at the Toro 826 OXE at THD. It compares very well to the Ariens Deluxe models.
Hal
Paul,
I’m in Blacksburg VA. I have about 10k square feet I keep cleared – max 10% grade and am looking to get a snow blower. The two I am deciding between between are a Simplicity H1730E and an Ariens Platinum 30″ SHO. Have heard the quality is better on the Simplicity but the Ariens reviews are far from terrible. Which machine (if either) would you choose? Thanks for your help!
Paul
Hi Hal, That is a lot of area to clear and you don’t average a lot of snow. You may want to consider a snow blade on your ATV as a much faster way to clear the snow. That said,
The Simplicity has been around for a long, long, time and it’s always gotten mixed reviews. The owners state it’s a heavy duty machine but many complain it doesn’t throw snow as far as they expect. Make sure you are buying local because a few have trans problems right away. Once fixed you won’t have issues later on.
The Ariens consistently throws snow a lot farther. If you are willing to walk fast the Ariens will keep up. The only thing with the Ariens, make sure you are buying the 2016-2017 version. It’s model number 921051. Ariens made a few minor changes last year than make the snow blower very easy to use.
Hal
Thanks Paul.
I went with the Ariens – better reliability and farther throwing were hard to pass on. The controls on the Ariens were better designed with less plastic.
Glenn McKeon
Is the new updated Snow Joe ION8024-XRP better than last year’s model for those in the midwest (central Ohio) with smaller driveways? Looks like they tried to fix some things with their second generation offering on this battery powered 2 stage machine.
Paul
Hi Glenn, I have not had the chance to see one in person or test it. Stores like Menards still have last years model on clearance.
David
Hi Paul,
I’m a bit confused on what to use for the gas on a new Cub Cadet I just purchased.
I live on Long Island, so what is the difference between Trufuel, Sea Foam and Stabil and what should I be using in the winter months when operating the machine and what should I use when storing the machine in summer?
Thank you,
David
Paul
Hi David,
Stabil is a fuel stabilizer that you add to the regular gas that you buy at the local gas station. Regular gas, especially ethanol blended fuels (E10) will start to go bad after only 30 days and Stabil helps to make them last longer. Follow the mixing directions on the bottle and put it right into your storage container when you go buy fuel. If you use Stabil always keep your fuel tank on your snow blower full when you store the snow blower for more than a few weeks. Stabil is a brand and they also make a bunch of fuel treatments for long-term storage around water (Marine) and a solution with an engine treatment.
Sea Foam is an engine treatment that I use and also works well as a fuel stabilizer. You also add it to the regular gas that you buy at the local gas station at the rate of 2 tablespoons (one ounce) per gallon. It helps to keep the fuel from going bad and keeps your engine clean. I’ve been using Sea Foam for years and my equipment always starts.
TrueFuel and VP Racing Fuel is a fuel replacement. Instead of buying gas at your local gas station you buy this in a quart or gallon can at your local hardware or home center. (Cheapest price I’ve found is Menards.) It is a true ethanol free fuel without any additives and will stay good for up to two years. It’s very expensive (about $20 a gallon) and I use it in engines that I don’t use very often. For example, I have a power brush that I only use about 1 hour a year and a push lawn mower that I only use for trimming about once a month. I use Trufuel in them because it doesn’t go bad. TruFuel also makes 40:1 and 50:1 2-cycle fuels for chainsaws and leaf blowers.
David
Thank you for the clarification Paul and Happy Holidays!
David
Brent in Virginia
Paul,
Bought a Craftsman snowblower last Black Friday and used it one time in the winter of 2017. It ran great. Started it up spring/early summer and let it run for about 15 mins. Stored in garage with empty gas tank. Use Stabil in fuel. Tried to start it a few days ago in anticipation of winter and it will not start. Tried using the electric start and it still will not start. It’s not even sounding like it’s trying to start. I followed all the cold starting instructions and nothing. I’m wondering if the fuel line could be clogged, but not sure what would be clogging it. Thoughts? Thanks in advance.
Paul
Hi Brent, Once is a very great while if you left the gas cap off you may have problems with spiders plugging the line. Otherwise, it won’t be a plugged gas line.
You will need a spark plug wrench
1. Make sure the is fully inserted. Yes, pull it out and put it back in to be sure.
2. Move the throttle all the way to full or rabbit.
3. Make sure the choke is moved all the way to close.
4. Pump the primer bulb 6 times. Make sure your finger is in the center of the bulb and covering the little dimple in the middle of the button.
5. Pull it by hand four times. Did it start?
If Not continue:
1. Pump the primer bulb another 4-6 times.
2. pull it by hand four times. Did it start?
If it did not do it one more time.
If it still didn’t start pull the spark plug and look at the end. Is it wet or dry? Color doesn’ matter.
If it’s wet leave the spark plug out for 30 minutes. Then reinstall it. Turn the choke to open, push the primer 4 times and then pull it four times.
If the plug was dry there is no fuel getting through the carb.
There is a Phillips head screw on the bottom of the carb. Most of them also have a hex head around the screw. Remove that and gas should run out. If gas doesn’t run out the float is sticking and the carb will have to be rebuilt.
If gas doesn’t run out most of the time the carb just needs to be primed. A few of us idiots use starting fluid to do that but I can’t suggest that to you if you are not very experienced. Instead, I suggest taking it to a small engine repair shop in your area and they’ll get it running.
By the way, did you use red Stabil or Marine Stabil. Red Stabil does stabilize the fuel but it won’t protect the carb unless fuel is left in the tank. If run dry using red Stabil the carb may oxidize inside and clog all the orifices. If you are going to run the tank dry use Sea Foam or another product that coats the fuel system.
Rick Given
Hi Paul, first off, this is a great site and thanks for it.
I live in Saint John NB Canada. I am in the market for a new machine and have narrowed it down to two. I am looking at the Ariens 24″ Compact (920021) retails here @ Home Depot for $1297.00 and the Toro Power Max 826 OE (37780) retails here for @ Home Depot for $1298.00.
I know bloody expensive EH!!! I’m leaning heavily towards the Toro. Home Depot is offering 18 months no interest so that’s where I’ll be buying from. I would very much appreciate your 2 cents on both machines if you could. My driveway is approx. 8’x40′ with two parking spots at the back. You mention above about the use of fuel stabilizer all winter, we have some pretty big swings in temperature from time to time and I believe that the stabilizer would help me greatly…any thoughts on that?
Thanks in advance for your time and knowledge.
Oh yeah I’m buying a new gas can as well…lol
Rick Given
Paul
Hi Rick, Yes, the prices feel expensive but that’s just the difference in the U.S. and Canadian currency. I have asked Toro and Ariens and they both use the current government conversion rates to set the prices.
Just so you know, neither one has power steering but that really won’t matter with that size of machine. They will both have great traction and are easy enough to turn.
I really can’t tell you which one is better. They are both good snow blowers and they both have the same power, capacity, and reliability. I like the chute controls on the Toro a little better. The tires on the Compact are a little larger but that really doesn’t matter when clearing hard surfaces or gravel driveways. So, if you like the Toro – get it!
If you are going to buy online and then pick it up at the store here is a link I make a little commission on: LINK: Snow Blowers at The Home Depot Canada. If they offer better financing if you buy in the store – by all means go that way though.
Best Gas Can: No-Spill 1405 2-1/2-Gallon Poly Gas Can (CARB Compliant)
Fuel Stabilizer/Treatment I Use. Sea Foam. When I go buy my gas I put 2 tablespoons ( 1 ounce) per gallon right in the storage can. That way all my fuel is treated and I don’t do anything else when I put the item into storage. Note: You can buy SeaFoam at most hardware, auto, farm and WalMart for less than the Amazon link here
Nicholas Bogdos
Hey Paul. Im Nick my family have a restaurant with a 40 car parking lot yes 40 car capacity. And purchasing a truck isn’t the problem but it would be in insurance alone 400 a month and a new plow. Which is where I wonder if I can assemble a group workers to snow blow and they each have there own section to pile up on. I currently am looking at the CubCadet 933. I need snowblowers under 1700 a pop and that are realizable. Any other recommendations. Thanks Paul.
Paul
Hi Nicholas, Please forget about the Cub Cadet 933, 945 and its cousin the Troy-Bilt Polar Blast 3310. (There are a few Chinese snow blowers that are worse but not by much) They are some of the worst snow blowers currently on the market. They are not reliable and need constant repairs.
In that price range look at the newer designed Troy-Bilt Arctic Storm 30, Troy-Bilt Arctic Storm 34, Craftsman 31AH8DSH799 30″ 357cc Dual-Stage Snowblower w/ Power Steering, and Craftsman 31AH8ESJ799 34″ 420cc Dual Stage Snowblower w/ Power Steering. Yes, they are all under $1700.
I actually suggest staying with the 30 inch models. They clear just as much snow and won’t wear out your helpers as quickly.
Kent
Paul, Thanks for this incredibly informative website! I just moved to Portland, Maine from Atlanta, Georgia. I’ve never lived in a place that gets snow… now we’ll be seeing plenty. I am considering a Husqvarna ST224P. We have a 2-car wide, flat driveway that is 40-50 feet long. We are close to the water so I’m guessing we’ll have wet, heavy snow often. Thoughts on this machine for my situation? My goal is to keep this expense under $1,000. Thanks!
Paul
Hi Kent, The Husqvarna ST224P is a great choice for a snow blower but it only handles wet snow average. If you want a machine that never plugs look at the Ariens Deluxe 24 or the Toro Power Max 826 OXE. The Deluxe 24 is $999 and the Power Max is a little over your budget. Either way, these snow blowers will always do the job and last for many, many years.
Mitch bickford
Hello. I live in Lee, Maine, I’m starting a lawn care and snow removal business. I’m looking for a two stage snowblower. I have already bought a toro single stage. I have reviewed Husqvarna, ariens, and toro snowblowers. My closest dealer is Ware’s power equipment, In Lincoln, me. Which carries husqvarna snowblowers. What is your opinion on the husqvarna st 230? My other ariens and toro dealers are about a hour away, while Lincoln is 15 minutes away. Ware’s will service ariens and toro, they just don’t sell those brands. Which one is right for me?
Paul
Hi Mitch, Sorry, I’ve gotten behind just a little. My opinion of the ST230P is that it is not the snow blower for you. Why? One simple reason. The power belt that drives the impeller/auger is too light and it will break on heavier-denser snow. It also will break on deeper (14-20 inch) drifts and snow falls. All of the other 200 series Husqvarna’s are fine. This snow blower just puts too much load on that belt. There are only three American made snow blowers currently on the market that I don’t recommend and that is one of them.
In reality, residential snow blowers like the Husqvarna 200 series won’t last doing multiple locations. Be sure to price your services so that you can replace your machines every three years or so.
I suggest instead a Husqvarna ST327P, an Ariens Platinum or Pro, or a Toro Power Max HD. They will last a lot longer and won’t break down out on the job.
Mitch bickford
Thank-you. Your website was very helpful. I Bought a toro powermax hd 826 oxe. Now I just need the snow to fly. Thanks again.
Paul
Hi Mitch, After you’ve used it a few times please stop back and let us know how you like it. As always, if you have any questions about it feel free to ask.
Alka
Hi, Paul. Great site, really appreciate all of the detailed information and analysis. We are in the market to buy our first “real” snow blower for the approaching season. We live in Northern NJ and have a 300′ (3.600 sq ft, including the large turn around at top) blacktop driveway. My husband and I have been studying up on snow blowers and are unable to decide between a 2 stage and a 3 stage. My husband seems to think the new Cub Cadet 3X26 will be the best choice, but from your comments, you do not seem to be too convinced of the benefits of the 3 stage or that particular model. I understand that you are currently reviewing the new Cub Cadets – can I ask when we might be able to expect your review and/or if you could give us your thoughts on it so far? I gathered from some of your comments that it has a tendency to break shear pins more often than other and that a 3 stage might not be the best for less than 6″ of snow. We do get our fair share of large snowfalls, but I thin we’ll also have a pretty regular need to clear less than 6″ at a time. The other model he’s willing to consider at this point is the Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO, which you seem to like a lot. We’re open to considering other models too, if you have any specific recommendations, but I’d like to narrow the field of choices quickly! Oh, my husband is 6’1″, fit and can fix just about anything, so maintenance not a problem. Plus we haven’t bought a shed yet, so we can make sure the blower will fit!
Paul
Hi Alka, I’ve really had a hard time keeping up with the comments this year and can’t find the time to finish that Cub Cadet article. Thanks for being patient.
From what I’ve learned you get a lot more 2-6 inchers than you do 8-14 inchers and because of that, I’d pick the Ariens over the Cub Cadet. The fact that the Cub Cadet throws snow out the front when there is only a few inches is a small point – but I’m the type who wants to look at what I just cleared and see a clean job. I don’t want to look back and have it look like the grandkids had a snowball fight behind me.
The Ariens Deluxe SHO and the Cub Cadet are fairly comparable on the deeper snows but the Ariens does a much better job cleaning up the smaller snows.
He’ll also like the handle height of the Ariens better. Unfortunatley, he won’t have a lot of maintenance to do on the Ariens. Change the oil every year and the belts every five years or so.
Matt
Hi Paul,
Thanks for all if the great information! This is such a great resource in helping making a big financial commitment.
I live in Minneapolis, MN and am looking to buy my first snow blower. I want this investment to last for a long time but have a budget of $1,000 or under. I have a 3 car driveway about 30 feet in length and I also clear/blow a 25 ×50 hockey rink.
I’ve found a used Cub Cadet, 2014 3×26 HD that is slightly used for $800.
I’ve also found that I can purchase a new Husqvarna ST 224/224P/227P for $650/$750/$850 (All models have a $150 mail in rebate at a small town dealership).
Would love to know what you recommend I purchase and it doesn’t have to be any of the above options.
Thanks so much,
Matt
Paul
Hi Matt, For your driveway in Minneapolis and clearing the rink you would like the ST224P the best. The extra 3 inches of the ST227P would save you about 10 minutes on the rink.
The 3X26 HD tends to splatter stuff out the front to one side so to use it on the rink you would always have to start in the middle and go in a circular pattern to clear all the snow. If you don’t it will leave more snow than you want that would have to be cleaned off with a shovel.
Paul
Need help choosing blower. Moved to Crescent Lake OR, 2 acres VERY rural wooded in the Cascade mtns, land were clearing is flat and graveled, last year had 7 mos of snow, base was 8’ft deep at peak, averaged 3′-5′ rest of season. Mix of light fluff, heavy wet, layers of ice from short melts and refreeze towards end of season. We are using a 7’ft breadth blower on back of our 32 hp John Deere to clear the bulk of open areas though is to bulky and awkward for maneuvering around the many posts/columns of the shop awning and near/around shop and out buildings themselves. Need a push blower to be used primarily where the tractor blower won’t get/fit, Lots of maneuvering around columns and next to outbuildings for all types of snow, quality/reliability and ease of use is important. Thinking we won’t need a large one so that should help keep cost down?…
Paul and Krystin
Crescent Lake OR
Paul
Hi Paul and Krystin, My first choice is an Ariens Deluxe 24. It’s small and easy to use around all the columns. The second choice is the Toro Power Max 826 OXE. Just a little wider but just as easy to use. Both will throw snow well and not clog if the snow is wet. Both are the most dependable units on the market for the price.
I’ll give you Home Depot links but your local dealers should have these in stock also.
Link: Ariens Deluxe 24 in. 2-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower with Auto-Turn Steering
Link: Toro Power Max 826 OXE 26 in. Two-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower. Note: this 2017 Model # 37797 has the larger tires like the Ariens for the best traction. If you are buying from a dealeer make sure you get this model number.
Victor
We live in Acton, 30 miles west of Boston. I think we get around a total of 50-60 inches of snow, with 12-18 inches at a time at least 3 times a year. We have a 100 ft two car driveway with a slight incline to clear. The town blocks the driveway with huge amounts of snow every single time, which is the most pressing reason we want a new show blower. Plus my husband can’t lift it anymore, thanks to an injury. Can you please tell me the best options to consider?
Paul
Hi Victor, My first choice for your area and size of driveway area is the Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO (dealer only) or the slightly less expensive Ariens Deluxe 28 in at The Home Depot.
Another good choice is the Toro Power Max 826 OXE at the Home Depot. It’s very easy to use.
Victor
Thanks a lot!
Paul
Hi Dan, Don’t be sorry – this is a hard decision for most of us. I called the three preferred dealers listed on the Ariens dealer locator and the best price is from:
Lark Lawn & Garden Inc (9.5 Mi)
Ariens Preferred Dealer
4037 Norton Rd, Grawn, MI 49637
231-943-4900
Their price is $1199 plus $50 for setup so the out-the-door price is $1249. (Plus tax if you have it up there) That setup does include them assembling the unit and going through all parts of it to make sure it is ready to run and work for years. I talked to James and he asked that you talk to him when you come in.
The other dealers I talked to are charging the “retail price” of $1299 and include setup in the price.
Dan Pearson
Wow! That’s great service on your part! Thanks. I just called Lark and reserved one. Thanks again for all your help.
Paul
Hi Dan, You are very welcome.
Dan Pearson
Hi Paul – I promise this will be my last question for you! Analysis Paralysis is setting in, snow’s coming and I need to make a decision and stick with it. My info again – Traverse City Michigan, 100 inch average snowfall/year, 125-foot paved driveway that is 1-car width for half, 2 1/2-car width for the rest plus a turnaround. Looking seriously at Ariens Deluxe 28 or Deluxe 28 SHO but have also seen the Cub Cadet 3×26 for less $ than those two and also considering the Craftsman 88396 which has a great online price for the next couple days. Any insight you could give me on those or others that might do the job as well without breaking the bank would be appreciated. Thanks.
Paul
Hi Dan, If your main concern is dependability, capacity and long life the Ariens SHO is still the best bang for your buck for about 100 inches a year. If your main concern is price the number one pick on my Top 20 list is the best for the money. It will be slower than the Ariens Deluxe and Deluxe SHO.
I have the following prices:
Craftsman 88396 $998. That’s $100 off the “normal” sale price. Great snow blower if you are getting 60 inches or so a year. It does not have the capacity to handle heavy snows deeper than 14-15 inches at a time.
Ariens Deluxe 28 $1099. Has the capacity to handle 100 inches but will be a lot slower than the SHO.
Cub Cadet 3X26 with poly Chute. $1199. If someone has it cheaper than that they are trying to get rid of old stock to make room for the new model. It’s not on my Top 20 list becasue it has a habit of breaking shear pins. The shear pin behind the gearbox is a real pain to replace.
Ariens DEluxe SHO $1199. In the under $1500 range this is the best bang for you buck. It will handle you 100 inch plus snow fall.
Cub Cadet 3X26 with new metal chute. $1299. I have no viewpoint on this model. It’s just like the poly chute one but “new for 2017”
Dan Pearson
Thanks for the quick reply Paul. We do get the occasional 15-20″ lake effect snowstorm so I think I’ll be looking at SHOs today.
Dan Pearson
One more question (sorry). Where are you seeing the $1199 price on the SHO? The dealers around here are considerably higher than that. Thanks.
James
Hi Paul, I live in Minneapolis, MN and am buying my first snow blower this year. I have a detached 2-car garage with about 30 ft. driveway. Also need to clear my sidewalks and walkways around my house. I am looking at the Toro 824 QXE and 826 OXE, but am wondering what is best for a concrete paver patio. I have a back walkway and 250 sq. ft. paver patio that I want to make sure I can clear without damaging. So far I’ve only found mixed information on single stage vs. 2 stage on pavers. Thanks!
Paul
Hi James, If you live in an area that does not get drifts over knee high then I can recommend the QXE. It will work well on your pavers. The trowing paddle does not actually touch the ground like the typical single-stage machines so it won’t scratch your pavers. Be aware that once or twice a season when we get a heavy wet snow you may have a little traction difficulties with it because it so lightweight. For the same reason if you get it I also suggest you get out right away after the snow plow comes through and clear the snow plow drift. That snow can freeze up if you let it set too long and the QXE will have some difficulties pushing through it.
The OXE is actually a better choice for Minneapolis but you must install poly skid shoes to keep it from scratching your pavers. The metal skid shoes is comes standard with will scratch your pavers. Here is a link to the correct skid shoes: Toro Poly Skid Shoe Kit for Toro 2-Stage Snow Blowers.
When you buy the OXE and get it home the first thing to do is replace the skid shoes and adjust the scraper bar. (If you buy from a dealer they can do this for you)
1. Take a look at the front of the snow blower. Under the front auger there is a metal scraper going the entire width. Place a piece of coragated cardboard under that scraper bar.
2. Replace the metal skid shoes with the ploy ones.
3. With the snow blower still sitting on the cardboard adjust the poly shoes so they touch the ground. Make sure the bottom is flat on the ground when you tighten the bolts.
4. Once you are done remove the cardboard and you can see there is about 1/8 inch gap under the scraper. This allows the 2-stage snow blower to clear your patio and not scratch the pavers.
The poly scrapers are tough and will last a long time but they will wear. I suggest readjusting them once a year.
Brent
Hi Paul,
Love your site. There’s lots of very helpful information here.
I’ve been using an Ariens 824 snowblower from the early 90’s to clear my driveway in upstate New York and it’s finally time for an upgrade. I want to stick with Ariens, and I’m torn between a Platinum 24/30 and a Professional 28. My local dealer is pushing an older model (926038) which he says he bought in bulk at the end of last season. However, it only took a little research to find out that this model must be from 2014 or prior because it still has the old knobs on the controls, not the newer black and grey knobs Ariens has used since 2015. They want $1,900 for the 926038 and there’s no discount from the “sticker” prices on the new platinums.
If I go with the older model, what am I missing out on? Were there any problems these models that were corrected in the more recent ones? What would you recommend?
Thanks for your help.
Brent
Paul
Hi Brent, You are missing out on a lot if you buy the older commercial unit. The 2017 Platinum 30 SHO Model 921051 @ $1799 (or the Platinum 24 SHO Model 921050 @ 1499) steer A LOT better than the older commercial units. In addition the Ariens AX engines on the Platinum series are some of the best on the market. The model numbers I listed were also redesigned so that they have the best traction.
No, most Ariens dealers don’t negotiate and a few even try to increase the price over retail. Those prices are the current Ariens price in the Ariens flyer he has laying on the service counter. If he is charging more I suggest going to a different dealer. Also make sure you are getting those model numbers. Ariens did not change the name when it fixed the steering issues of the 2015 and older models.
William Morris
Great website Paul. I am ready to purchase and will make certain I use your link so you receive your benefit. I have a two car paved driveway that measures 50′ in length. Additionally, I want to clear a path wide enough to drive to my barn over grass, say 9′ wide the length is 240′. I have a walkway of 50′ that will need one pass. I have narrowed my choices down to the Troy-Bilt Arctic Storm, either the 30 or 34. I am in Ketchum, ID. My wife will want to clear the 50′ walkway as well as half the 50′ driveway on those occasions when I do not do so before leaving for work and she needs to go somewhere. We are both 62 and in good condition. Do you feel she will be able to handle the 30 or 34 inch models? Every review I have seen states these are very user friendly. thank you.
Paul
Hi William, Buying the 334 inch will not save you a lot of time. Why? In most cases you will have to make two round trips to clear the 9 foot drive with either the 30 or 34. The 30 inch will be easier for your wife to use.
Yes, They are pretty easy to use. Here are two videos that I did last winter. I have the 34 inch and the 30 inch is identical except for the engine size and width.
Troy Bilt Arctic Storm 34XP – The Best New Large Frame Snow Thrower?
2016 Troy-Bilt Arctic Storm 34 2-stage, 420cc Blowing Snow
Justin
Paul,
Very informative website. I live in North East, MD (between Baltimore and Philly) and need to clear 50′ two car driveway (including the mush the plow makes) and at a minimum 60′ of sidewalk, with up to 200′ of sidewalk if I feel like going all the way to my kid’s bus stop. I don’t think I want to go electric as when it snows here that tends to fail also. Thanks for the assistance.
Paul
Hi Justin, If the snow plows throw snow on the sidewalk then you will have to go with a 2-stage snow blower. That snow can get really heavy or freeze into a solid mass. The 2-stage machines will push through that better. Two good choices for you are the Cub Cadet 24 in. 208cc 2-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower with Power Steering, Ariens Compact 24 in. 2-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower or if you are on a budget the Ariens Classic 24 in. 2-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower
If the snow plow does not throw the snow on the sidewalk a good choice will be the Toro SnowMaster 724 QXE 24 in. Single-Stage Gas Snow Blower
Catriese Henning
Okay, thanks. I live in Dolton, in the south suburbs. I’m looking for a good used model; these will run me a couple thousand dollars. I’ll check the dealer locators. I appreciate the help.
Paul
@Catriese, I know the snow you can get in Dolton – I lived in Alsip for a while. Be very, very careful buying used, especially since you are going to get paid for snow removal. 1. Can you get parts for that old used iron? Most used stuff you find for sale is older than you are. Most used stuff with the old L-head engine design will not run well on todays fuels. 2. People want their driveways cleared when you say you will get it done – not later that day, tomorrow or the next week because your used snow blower won’t start or broke a belt. If you break down constantly people will drop you like a hot rock and not come back. And they will tell all their friends. 3. Most used stuff is residential grade and if you do find a used Simplicity or Ariens they are wore out.
ian
Hi Paul, Thank you so much for all the great info on this site! I’m having a hard time trying to decide which snowblower would work best in my case and wanted to ask your opinion. I live on a hillside property in New Haven CT in an old victorian that has three levels of snow blowing needs. My parking and driveway is behind the house 12 steps above my property area and my sidewalk is down 10 steps from the property. I have a sears single stage blower that i can haul up and down stairs but it just doesn’t cut it for the blizzards we get here. Are there any 2 stage units that i can transport up and down stairs? I was thinking about getting the the troy-bolt flex that comes apart into two pieces to make the stairs more navigable. Thanks!
Paul
Hi Ian, The Toro SnowMaster would be my first choice. It weighs the same as the power unit on the flex and would be a lot faster for you to use. It will handle drifts up to 18 inches in one pass and will be very fast clearing 2-8 inch snows. Just use the search box at the top of the page and type in Snowmaster. I have quite a few articles on it.
Another option is the Ariens Deluxe 24. It has large, 16 inch tires which makes it easier to pull up stairs.
Catriese Henning
Hi Paul. I’m starting a snow removal service this winter for residential neighborhoods. I live in the suburbs of Chicago. Mainly I plan to stick to sidewalks, sides of homes, backyard areas, driveways, and street parking.
What would be the best blower for me to invest in?
Paul
Hi Catriese, Just remember, a snow blower like you would buy at your local hardware store of home improvement center is designed for residential use. Using one on multiple driveways will quickly wear it out. I also highly suggest that you buy your snow blower from a dealer you trust.
So, The two snow blowers I recommend for what you want to do are. Cost is about the same for each one.
1. Toro Power Max® HD 1028 OHXE (38806). It has heavy duty skid shoes and a stronger handle so it will last.
2. Ariens Professional 28. This one also has heavy duty components and a much stronger handle than you will get on a residential unit.
Catriese Henning
Thanks so much, Paul! Do you have a list of dealers that you would recommend for this area?
Paul
@Catriese, No, there are so many Toro and Ariens dealers in the Chicago area. You didn’t state what suburb you live in so the dealer I like could be 75 miles away from you. Use the dealer locator at toro.com and ariens.com to find dealers that sell mainly to commercial dealers. I also suggest visiting a couple of dealers each and ask them how they work with their commercial customers. Pick the dealer you like the best.
Spike
Paul,
This is a great site, and I thank you for it. We live in Boise, Idaho, which is in a basin between mountain ranges. Typically, there isn’t much snowfall, but last winter was “snowmageddon”! We had at least eight storms that dumped 6 -8 inches at a time, often only days apart. I have a 300 foot driveway of level asphalt, plus concrete apron for a 3-car garage to clear. My good neighbor was kind enough to plow everything for us last winter with his UTV. This year I would like to clear the snow myself, and not take advantage of his kindness. Our snow here is usually dry and powdery. I am thinking of the Ariens 30 inch model with EFI. Is this a good choice, or can you recommend something better?
Paul
Hi Spike, The Ariens Deluxe 30 EFI 30 in is a great choice. With the EFI you can count on it starting even if it sits for a year.
Home Depot Link: Deluxe 30 EFI 30 in
Spike
Thanks! I think this is the one…
John
Hi Paul – my old craftman snow blower that’s more than 10 years old has finally quite on me and I need a new one. I live in Castle Rock, CO and the average snowfall is between 65-75 inches a year. I have a three car garage with a large L-shaped two lane driveway. My house is a corner house so I have to clear the sidewalk not just in front of my house but also the sidewalk that wraps around the side of my house. The drive way has an incline away from the house and the sidewalk in front of my house is also on a slop. The old 24 inch craftman was slow slow slow. It usual takes me about 2.5 hours to clear a 6-8 inch snowfall. However, many winters we will also get dustings of 2-4 inches which doesn’t make me want to breakout my heavy old snow blower that is hard as heck to maneuver on an incline since it doesn’t have power steering. Our snow is usually the dry powder stuff. I like idea of the Toro Snowmaster 824 QXE or the 724 QXE. Not sure the additional $150 for the larger engine is worth it. I also saw that Costco.com just listed a Poulan Pro 24 inch snow blower with a rather large 305cc Brigs & Stratton engine. I can’t find any reviews of this snow blower and most Poaulan Pro have a different type of engine. I’m looking to spend around a max of $1000 on a snowblower but I sure would love to spend less than that. My wife also will clear the snow sometimes so I’d want something is easier to maneuver than my old craftman best…that this is heavy and not very easy to turn. Let me know what you think is the right machine for me!
Hi Paul – here is the link to the Costco.com snowblower: https://www.costco.com/Poulan-24%22-Dual-Stage-Snow-Thrower.product.100382908.html
Also, I don’t have gravel areas I need to blow. It is all concrete and asphalt.
Paul
Hi John, The SnowMaster likes the dry-powder stuff. It’s fast and easy to use. Just be aware that if you get a 12-16 inch wet snow you may have to take half-passes, etc. because it will run out of traction. But, if you only get one of them a year the SnowMaster is a good choice.
No, you will never find a review of a Costco, BJ’s or Sam’s Club snowblower. These snow blowers are limited run, high profit items for these warehouse clubs that put products out to bid every year. They are always different based on who submits the lowest bid.
This snow blower is a good example. 1. It’s made by Husqvarna but Husqvarna actually doesn’t sell Poulan in the U.S. (Their other brand is Poulan Pro) 2. The tires are much smaller than normal, it has a incandescent headlight and an odd-ball sized engine. (Someone had an excess inventory of that engine laying around.) 3. It’s not even the right color – Poulan was yellow or lime green. 4. Husqvarna was using the Poulan name in Africa and the Middle East for a few years but the brand is not even listed on the main Husqvarna site anymore. 5. Is COSTCO going to service it and have parts for 10 Years? No one else will…..
If you want a good snow blower for $699 buy the Ariens Classic 24 in. 2-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower at Home Depot, The Craftsman 88173 or the Troy-Bilt Storm 2460
John
Thanks for the feedback Paul. I think I can safely cross off the Costco option…I want to be able to service and buy parts easily. Given my circumstances and a budget of up to a max of $1000 what would be your strongest recommendation? I get 2-3 slushy snow storms per season…generally such storms are only 4-8 inches. I want something that will clear snow fast, clear to the pavement, easy to use and maneuver and very well built so that it is reliable and durable. It also has to work well on sidewalks and driveways with an incline (it’s not really steep but pushing up a 150 lbs machine with little or no power assist would be a real workout). I don’t need heated handles, lights or other cosmetic bells and whistles.
Paul
Hi John, Take a look at this list please. The number one choice is $999.
2017 Top 20 List.
I’ll be glad to answer any other questions you have.
John
Paul – the #1 pick on that list is the Troy Bilt 2860. Looks like a great machine. Question…how easy is it to maneuver/turn. My wife will be using it as well and she’s only 115 lbs. and has turning it on the sloped driveway. The reason I ask is that it doesn’t have power steering. If its is relatively easy to turn I think I’ve found my new snow thrower. HOWEVER, if its going to be a challenge for her to maneuver/turn, could you recommend a different machine that has power steering. Lights/handwarmers are less of a have to have items. Thanks…and this is the last question, promise.
Paul
Hi John, Your computer is not seeing the lastest version of that article. Please refresh your browser. If that doesn’t work delete the history on your computer.
In case it won’t reset here is the new No. 1 pick.
Toro Power Max® 826 OXE (37797) 26 inch, 252 cc engine, automatic steering and Toro’s famous Quick-Stick Chute Control. Picking the number one best choice for a snow blower is the most difficult task I have. Does it throw snow well? Does it clear heavy, wet snow? Is it easy to use? Can most people use it? Is it built well and will last a homeowner many, many years? Does it have a nationwide parts and service network? Will the dealers service it even though you bought it at a Home Improvement Store? This snow blower answers all those questions with a resounding YES!. The only reason the snow blower never made the list before was it had small tires (Model 37781) but for 2017 they installed the larger tires it needed! Home Depot Link: Power Max 826 OXE 26 in. 2-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower. My Review Link. 2017 Toro Snow Blowers Note: This is not a high-capacity snow blower but it does have auto/power steering, a good engine, handles all types of snow well, great chute control and is very easy to use for most people. It is a very good choice for a 2 car wide driveway 60-100 feet long. It works well for the snow falls you typically get if you live in Minneapolis, Omaha, Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh or Long Island. If you live in areas that get 100-200 inches like Boston, Buffalo, Salt Lake and Lake Tahoe please look at the heavy-duty Toro Power Max HD 826 OXE instead.
John
Hi Paul…one final final question. Do you think that the Toro Snowmaster SnowMaster® 824 QXE (36003) would also work for me as compared to the Power Max® 826 OXE (37797)
? The Snowmaster 824 QXE is on sale at Homedepot for $861. That’s almost $240 dollars less? I’ll spend the money for the Toro Powermax but if both fit my needs well…$240 dollars will by me a lot flies for my fishing!
Paul
Hi John, I have a SnowMaster here and it’s the snow blower I grab first. But because it’s only 120 lbs when I get more than 10 inches of heavy snow it has traction issues. I’ll then grab a two stage like the 826 OXE.
If I only had the Snowmaster I would be prepared that in the heavy snows or doing the end of driveway snow for it to take longer. I could only take half-passes, etc. Even then it would be a lot faster than your old Craftsman.
Joe Basto
Hi Paul, great info! After trying shoveling last winter at our new Boston metro-area home, I’m ready to get my first snowblower! Our asphalt driveway is two cars wide and can probably fit 5-6 cars and is on a slight to moderate incline. We also have a brick walkway from the driveway to the front of the house that is about 32 inches wide and 30-40 paces long. We do not have sidewalks to worry about but the plows always push the snow to our side, blocking our driveway. I think I am leaning towards the Craftsman Quiet models since my wife and daughter are light sleepers and the bedrooms are on the second floor on the same side as the driveway, unless you have a better recommendation? Are they really that might quieter? Unless you suggest something else, I guess that boils it down to the 26″ or 28″. I guess a bigger engine and wider intake are generally better but my only concern would be the extra weight of the 28″ as well as fitting it into my shed – the doorway is about 31″ side. Is the width of the intake the widest part of the blower? Also, is it easy to get these blowers up/down a step or two? There are a couple steps down to our walkway and to get it into the shed there’s a step. I am 5’4″ medium build from lifting weights a couple times a week at the gym. Finally, if we stick with Craftsman, do you think the 5 year warranty is worth it or would 3 years be the best value? I plan to follow your instructions for fuel management and simple maintenance but don’t intend to do any repairs myself. Any advice you can provide, even another model I haven’t considered, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Joe
Paul
HI Joe, For the Boston area I strongly suggest the 28 inch with the larger engine. You get some wet, heavy snows and you will appreciate the extra power.
Yes, they are a lot quieter. The 28 inch will go through your door with about 1/2 inch to spare. I generally pull a snow blower up a step. It seems to work the best. Make sure you have a solid footing before you pull. The larger tires on the 28 also help pulling it up steps. It really is not that much heavier.
These snow blowers are very dependable. If you follow the fuel management you should have no issues with it for many years.
Keep and extra package of shear pins taped to the handles: Craftsman 88389 Shear pins.
I also suggest having and extra blower belt on hand. You may never need it but it’s nice having one at home if you break it during a snowstorm. There are videos on youtube showing you how to change it easily. Belt: Craftsman/MTD 954-04050A Belt
Here is the Sears link: Craftsman 88394 28″ 243cc Dual-Stage Snowblower with Quiet Engine
Joe
Great advice, thanks, Paul. Definitely going with the 28″ then. Sears just had a deal for 10% off so I jumped on it. Also got the 5 year warranty but I’ll be sure to pick up a spare belt as well.
Joe
One more question, Paul, would you recommend the 5 gallon or 2.5 gallon no-spill gas can for this machine, based on your recommendation that you don’t keep the fuel longer than a month? I haven’t found any clear documentation on the size of the gas tank on the 28″. I don’t have any other gas equipment and both of my cars recommend 93 octane so I don’t plan on emptying it there (will probably give to neighbors with gas mowers). Thanks again for the input!
Paul
Hi Joe, These snow blowers don’t use much more than a quart and hour so the 2.5 gallon is the better choice.
kai
Hey paul. Im the “young entrepreneur” that contacted you a few months ago. I recently bought a honda hss928actd. How should I store it in the summer?
Paul
Hi Kai, The best way to store a Honda is to follow the storage procedure in the Operator’s manual.
bob
Hi i live in nunavut,canada. I have a 400 foot driveway what would be a good snowblower?
Paul
Hi Bob, I really am not familiar with all the snow blowers available in Canada but a 28-30 inch Ariens or 28 inch Toro are always a good choice.
Dave
Hi Paul,
I’m in Toronto, Canada near the lake and we get a lot of snow. I’m thinking of getting my first snow blower. I have narrowed it down to these two. the Ariens 921032 (2 stage 306cc) or the Troy Bilt Vortex 30-in 420cc 3-Stage Snowblower.
Can you help me choose?
Paul
Hi Dave, The current model number of the Ariens Deluxe 30 is 921047. A better Troy-Bilt for you is the Vortex is the Arctic Storm 30. Check out this list: http://movingsnow.com/2017/twenty-best-snow-blowers-september-2017-snow-blower-best/
Dave
Hey Paul,
/my only options are from canadiantire.ca or homedepot.ca. Anything from these two sites?
Paul
Hi Dave, At HomeDepot.ca I STRONGLY suggest you stick with Toro or Ariens 2-stage. MTD/Cub Cadet is also a reasonable choice. Everything else listed is made in China and you may have parts/service issues with the Chinese stuff.
canadiantire.ca doesn’t have all the items listed on their website so I can make any suggestions for them.
Kunzle Chris
Hi Paul,
I live in Purcellville VA (northwest of Washington DC) and I have a 600 ft driveway and an area in front of a 4 car garage. You might remember we had a 3ft snow fall two years ago and every one was stuck because we could not get to the cleared road. I am handy and intend to service the machine my self. What would you recommend and what are you thoughts of new vs. used. Thanks for your input.
Chris
Paul
Hi Kunzle, I don’t recommend used. You are just buying someone else’s problems. Besides, people tend to keep snow blowers for 20 years or more and you can’t get parts for most of them.
Because of the amount of area you have to clear you will need a snow blower with extra heavy duty skid shoes. Ariens has the heaviest duty shoes and can easily be replaced when worn out. The Ariens also tend to move faster than most of the other machines so if you can walk quickly the Ariens will keep pace.
I suggest the 28 Ariens Deluxe SHO, 30 inch Platinum or 28 inch Commercial gear drive.
Chris Kunzle
Thank you very much for your suggestions. I will check these models out and let you know which one I bought. Thanks again. Most helpful information.
Chris
Harry
Site been a little slow, cant wait for the snow to fly.
Paul
Hi Harry, I agree – not a word from anyone on new stuff. At least I’m getting some “honey do’s” finished.
Ellyn Coughlin
I purchased a Toro Snowmaster 724 QXE per your recommendation. It worked like a charm this winter, although Denver was low on snow, so we only were able to use it once. I used the TruFuel, again, per your recommendation. My question is this: Now that it’s summer, what do we need to do to put the snowblower “to bed” for the winter? If we used the TruFuel, do we still need to drain the gas and the oil?? Thanks for any help you can provide. I want to make sure we keep this new snowblower running year after year!
Paul
Hi Ellyn, If you are using TruFuel you do not need to drain the fuel. In fact, the best thing to do is fill the fuel tank completely.
Oil, Toro uses good oil and you only used it once so again I would not change the oil now. Wait until next spring.
Dan Rohrman
Hello Paul;
Thank You For This Site!
Your Expertise guided me to a 24″ Ariens 2 Stage – Deluxe 24 – I live in Northern lake County IL.
My Question is Storage – I have been running Seafoam as you recommended all winter.
You suggest using Stabil or True Fuel for summer storage – Any Reason not to use Seafoam Storage Directions from their website?
Snow Blower Tip #3 Engine Storage
When ready to put away your snow blower for several months:
1) With a low tank of fuel, add at least 1 to 3 ounces of Sea Foam to the tank
2) Run the engine for at least 5 minutes for the high Sea Foam concentration to work through the carburetor and chamber areas, then shut off
3) Remove the spark plug and spray a burst to coat the cylinder cavity
4) If you prefer a filled tank, add a mix of Sea Foam and fresh fuel (1 ounce per gallon minimum)
Daniel P
Paul
Hi Daniel, Yes, not everyone likes to use seafoam so I include the other options, but I use it all the time. You can follow the Seafoam directions and it works very well.
What I do myself and with an Ariens Deluxe. I use the “normal” seafoam mix. In other words I mix 2 tablespoons of seafoam with each gallon of gas in my storage can. I do this when I buy the fuel.
When I store an Ariens that fuel is already in the tank. I’ll start the engine, let it warm up for a minute then turn the fuel shut-off to off. It takes about 60-90 seconds for the engine to run out of fuel. I then fill the fuel tank and leave it full for the summer. That’s it.
My equipment always starts in the fall.
Dan Rohrman
Thanks Paul –
So in your experience – Fuel Shutoff to OFF While Running and Run the Carb Dry before storage – leave nothing in it?
Paul
Hi Dan, Yes. The film from the Seafoam protects the parts.
Bala
Hi Paul,
We get non ethanol gas as premium, supreme etc which is a bit more expensive. The regular grades get up to 10% ethanol. So on my new 826 HD OXE, I am planning to do the following. Buy supreme, add seafoam as you recommended when buying gas and run with it all winter season. Do I have to really use fuel shut off and empty the carb at the end of the season? Toro recommends to dry everything. But there are lots of people on forums complaining that their carb got damaged because of dried up seals etc. Can I leave the blower as is, and may be start once a month or so through summer and fall? Thanks a lot
Bala
Paul
HI Bala, SeaFoam or other name brand fuel stabilizers like Stabil Marine or Stabil Storage leave a coating inside the carb to keep the gasket pliable. I have a lot of equipment here that does not have fuel shutoff and 90% of the time they do just as well and the ones with a shut off.
If you don’t run the carb dry please turn off the fuel shutoff anyway. That will keep the carb float valve from leaking. Over time a leaking float valve will either leak all the fuel onto the floor or into the engine crankcase.
In general people who have problems are using ethanol blended fuel and don’t use a fuel stabilizer. There is a lot of oxidizer in todays fuel and if you don’t counteract that with a fuel stabilizer it will dry out the seals.
John
Hi Paul, I stumbled across your website researching for a new snowblower. I have an Ariens 5 horsepower which I’ve owned for 10 years. I’ve had no mechanical issues with it, it runs great – however I live on a main road where the plows constantly push the heavy wet snow back onto the driveway and sidewalk. The machine is unable to power through and we end up shoveling half in order to be able to use it. I also have to store it in the front of the house because we could never get it up the backyard from the shed if it snowed. My question is – I was looking at the Ariens Platinum 24. I’m concerned that there may be too much power because I can’t throw the snow back out into the main street and I can’t tell if the chute can be adjusted downward for a more controlled removal. Am I going overboard with this much power or playing it safe with the heavy plowed snow. I’d like this to be my last machine and look forward to hearing your opinion.
Thanks,
John
Paul
Hi John, The Platinum 24 is about 10 HP. I do like the EFI engine though and I’d probably buy it just for that fact over the Deluxe.
The Deluxe 24 is about 8HP and has enough power for most areas of the country.
The chute will rotate about 200 degrees so It will actually throw back a little. The Deflector van adjust how far the it throws the snow. From 40 feet down to right along side the snow blower.
Gary
Hi Paul,
Which snowblower is better:
30″ Dual Stage 305cc B&S EZ-Steer Snow Blower (craftsman)
or 28″ 2-Stage Snow Blower with Light, Heated Hand Grips & Steerable Wheels
Yard Machines?
I have two 6 cars driveway I am on Ontario.
Paul
Hi Gary, I no longer have a good handle on the Canadian market so without the model numbers (item numbers on sears.ca) I really can’t tell who is making the 30 inch. Just from the info you gave though the 305 cc engine is pretty small. If you get any lake effect or average over 70 inches I’d find a snow blower with more power for the size. The Yard Machines is a good snow blower but again I’d want a 277 cc of larger motor on it.
Joe Basto
Hi Paul – Any thoughts? Thanks!
Paul
Hi Joe, I’m trying to get the article done I want to answer your question with. If honey-do’s don’t get in the way too much I’ll have it done late today or early tomorrow.
Ed B
Hi Paul,
I live near Boston and have been using a 20 year-old two-stage Craftsman to clear our 40-foot two car driveway. It has been well-maintained and works fine but inevitably clogs when I hit the heavy wet snow from the pile, and we tend to get a big plow wall (routinely 2-4 feet high) in front of our driveway. I’m looking to upgrade to something for next winter that can chew through the pile without clogging and then causing me to ruin my back shoveling. I like the idea of the Toro SnowMaster single-stage line but I think a PowerMaster might suit my needs better because of the clogging issues. I also need it to be ideally 24-26 inches for storage purposes. Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help! I really appreciate your website.
Ed
Paul
Hi Ed, Yes, the SnowMaster is great but it really doesn’t do well in heavy, tall snow plow piles. It’s too lightweight.
For your area and the amount of snow you have been getting the last few years I’m suggesting the Toro 26 in. Powermax 826 OXE or the Ariens Deluxe 24 as the minimum capacity snow blower for you. These are both around $1000.
If you would like to get the highest capacity then the dealer only Ariens Platinum 24 and Toro PowerMax HD 826 OXE are the best choices. They won’t plug and will push through your snow plow drift with ease. They are around $1400.
Ed B
Thanks very much Paul, that is really helpful! I’ll take a look at these models.
anthony view
Hi, my name is Anthony and I live in Michigan. We are looking to buy our first snowblower. We have seen one advertised at Menards, the MTD two cycle 208cc. We are not rich, but need something to clear our sidewalks after the snowplows go through. It’s on sale right now and want to know if that is a good deal.
Paul
Hi Anthony, Hi Bob, I live in the hometown of Menards. So….I have to shop there. Why? because he (John) will not allow a Home Depot or Lowes within 100 miles of “his hometown.” Yes, he has threatened more than once to pull all 3000 employees from his corporate offices and move them to Minnesota if a Lowes or Home depot is allowed to come in.
That said, Be very careful buying any gas powered equipment from Menards for two reasons. 1. If you put gas in the machine – it’s yours. Menards will not take it back for any reason. Yes, even if it was broke out of the box but you put gas in it – you can’t return it. Any repairs have to be done through an authorized MTD repair center. But because you purchased the item from Menards expect the repair to take a very long time. (The repair center will always fix all of their customers equipment before they repair the Menards stuff) 2. Menards has improved a lot of the products they sell over the last 5 years but Menards does not buy quality lawn and garden equipment. They only buy high margin equipment so they can undersell all the other home centers.
So, I strongly suggest you do not buy a gas powered snow blower from Menards. In another month you will be able to buy a Craftsman from Sears, A Remington from Home Depot, or a Troy-Bilt from Lowes for about the same money and get a lot better service/parts support.
Ed B
Hi Paul, the time has come for me to make my choice and I’ve been able to find both the 826 OXE and the Deluxe 24 for the same price. Any preference? I’m leaning towards the Toro because of the anti-clogging feature. Thanks! -Ed
Paul
Hi Ed, The anti-Clog works well but so does the larger 14 inch impeller on the Ariens. six to one – half dozen to another.
No real preference myself. I like the larger tires on the Ariens but don’t like the chute controls that well. I love the chute controls on the Toro and the fact it’s built so tough it does not use shear pins.
Ed B
Thanks Paul! Local dealer has the Ariens in stock so I’ll probably go with that one.
jeff
Hi Paul,
First off – you are amazing. Thank you for your thoughts on my prior comments, and on everyones comments here. I don’t know how you manage to do it!!
Was hoping to get your advice, and wanted to share my experience today in the snow….
Today in New York we had some snow, and I had a chance to use 2 blowers – one at home, and one at my office. They are about 1 mile away from each other, so the conditions should have been comparable.
This snow was particularly wet, and sticky. Yesterday it was 65′! And today we have 1 foot of snow! Somewhat unusual events here… and maybe related to my experiences below. Even using a hand shovel, snow would stick to the shovel and you would have to tap it on the ground to get it off.
That brings me to my question…
At home, i have a 24″ troy Storm. Model 7524. I did (regrettably) do the mod with rubber on the impellers… before I found your website and read your thoughts on problems that this may cause me. I kind of regret that now… but the mod is on the blower. Anyway, this blower worked GREAT. I did my house first. No problems at all. Started 4:30pm and finished 5:30pm
I then drove to the office and used a larger Troy – model 3090XP. I started at 6pm. The unit is new. This was the maiden voyage. I was very excited… and very disappointed. I had such a hard time!!!! The snow kept sticking and making the augers look like one smooth roller. I would knock out the snow, and it would fill right up again after walking just a few feet. When the augers would fill, the snow blower would then ride up on the snow in front of it, and leave at least 4″ under the blower – if and when I could push it ahead. I tried putting weight on the front by lifting the bars…. backing up and hitting it again, taking 1/2 or 1/4 cuts, dropping my height guides so that the scraper bar was all the way down, wiggling, giggling, and everything else I could think of – but I could not get the job done. After about 3 hours, I called a friend with a plow. Very frustrating. I hate it when they plow my lot!!
So I went home feeling pretty upset that my brand new bigger better fancy Troy failed… and thought maybe it was because the weather changed… and it was colder than when I was at home. So I tried out my smaller older modified 7524 on some neighbors sidewalks who didn’t get to the snow yet… and it cut right threw it.
I was hoping you could offer some advice here…
1. Is it that I was working on my office at the “critical” temp zone… and if I waited for it to get colder it would have stuck less?
2. Is it that the auger on the 3090 has 6 sheer pins (3 on each side), and is more prone to getting clogged than the 7524 that has one sheer pin on each side?
3. Could it be something else?
Would love your advice
Sorry that the above was somewhat long winded….
Many thanks for your consideration
Jeff
Paul
Hi Jeff, the problem is the type of snow you got. It had too much water in it. I have a feeling if it gets cold overnight and you went out tomorrow morning it would throw the snow without plugging the front auger.
Somewhere on this blog I wrote about the difference between an open flight auger system and a closed flight (I think it was on the Husqvarna snow blowers in 2014. An open flight auger like the one in your old troy-bilt is better for that wet heavy snow because it mixes air with the snow before it throws it out. But it tends to throw the snow out the front of the snow blower when the snow is light or dry. When the snow is dry it will make a mess and you’ll end up going over the driveway twice to get it clean.
A closed flight auger like the one on the 3090 works well to keep the impeller and chute from clogging. It meters the snow so that only so much goes into the snow blower at a time. As you found out today there are certain times and types of snow when the closed flight doesn’t work that well – i.e., when the snow is very wet.
The 3090 (and the Cub Cadet – Craftsman 2-stage) does have the quirk that when the front auger is getting too much snow (or plugged) it will want to ride up. Go slower or take half-passes if the snow is very deep or wet like today. Also if the snow blower’s front is riding up stop and check the shear pins. One or more may be broken (that wasn’t your problem today)
No snow blower is perfect for every snow. I know that the 3090 will work 9 out of 10 years just fine for your New York/Long Island snow.
jeff
Once again, Thanks so much!
Do you have any feelings about some sprays that are available to reduce sticking on the auger? I’d really like to be able to rely on my blower (especially at the office) no matter what snow type we have.
I’ve read some use Pam cooking spray?
Or DuPont Teflon Snow and Ice Repellant (seems to have good reviews on amazon).
No sheer pins broken today (good point though… i did check!!!)
Paul
Hi Gary, yes the snow yesterday was very hard to blow. The Many of the closed flight snow blowers just clogged and wouldn’t even throw it. This is a once in every 10 year snow so I wouldn’t throw out my snow blower if it didn’t do a good job.
You can try silicone, It won’t hurt the snow blower in any way. There is a product called Invisi-Shield that everyone says works great.
After you blow the snow try to get your snow blower in an area above 32 degrees and let it dry out. I use a brooder heat lamp and fixture. That way the machine won’t be frozen up and break the belts the next time you use it.
Claudia Kelly
Hi Paul, Very well written and comprehensive article. You’ve made it easy to choose just what is needed for each individual situation. Having said that, I am still considering buying a tractor with a snow plow attachment. I have 1 acre, slopped property with a lot of trees. In addition to needing snow removal, I also need leaf removal. Wouldn’t a tractor with an attachment make more sense? I live in Lancaster, MA. The removal area includes three-four parking spaces and 100′ driveway and 50′ walkway. The driveway is gravel. My husband takes care of the snow and leaf removal himself, but at 67, I’m not sure he is going to be up to doing it much longer. How can I make these chores easier for him or me? Please advise.
Paul
Hi Claudia, The biggest issue with the tractor plows for us older people is you have to take off the deck and install the snow blade every fall and then switch it back in the spring. The snow blade mounts stay on the tractor but it can be hard work if you can’t lay on the ground and work on the ground very well anymore. You also need to install a rear weight and tire chains. The second issue is where to go with the snow. You have to start with the first snow and push it way back into the lawn otherwise you don’t have anywhere to go with the second and third and fourth snow. If you get a lot of snow you’ll end up hiring someone to come in and blow the snow away from the edge of the driveway. I’m not saying it’s not a good choice – I just want you to know what’s involved using a tractor.
Jeff
Hi Paul
This is a really helpful website. Thank you!!
Two questions.
1. I’ve been reading that many people modify their impellers by bolting on rubber so that the impeller comes right up to the housing. They claim it prevents clogs and throws snow further. Do you have any experience with this?
2. Troy (and others) now offer 2 and 3 stage blowers. I have not been able to find any videos showing an example side by side if 3 stage is really helpful. In your experience is a 3 stage better? Or just more parts to break?
Paul
Hi Jeff, You must be reading the snow blower forums. Any mods you do in the first 3 years will void your warranty.
1. Impeller kits are for old, worn out snow blowers. Today’s snow blowers are set for optimal throw. Also, some new snow blowers uses a cast impeller. Drilling into the paddles or adding the weight of the impeller kit may throw off the balance and break the fins. That would not be covered under the warranty. There is a trade off on how large the gap between the impeller and housing should be, it’s affect’s it’s ability to throw every type of snow and it’s ability to throw rocks without damaging the snow blower.
If you want a new snow blower that throws the farthest there are three series. Toro PowerMax HD, Ariens Platinum SHO, and Troy-Bilt Arctic Storm/Craftsman Pro 30 and 34 inch.
2. When you compare a 24 inch 208cc Troy-Bilt Storm to the 24 inch 277cc Vortex ($500 difference in price) Troy-Bilt/Cub Cadet claims the the 3-stage will throw twice as much snow. It should, it’s almost twice the price. That said, 3-stage machines like 8-16 inches of normal snow. They do a good job with that. They don’t do as well with 6 inches or less and wet snow. They tend to make a mess. Here is a video I did on that subject. Troy-Bilt Vortex 2490 3 Stage Snow Blower Hands On Test
Jeff
Thank you so much for your thoughtful informative and prompt reply!!
Do you have any personal experience with the impeller mod? Or are your comments based more on your extensive experience with blowers and how they work?
Ive not yet read or found in YouTube anyone commenting about regretting installing the mod. Obviously your comment on warranty is well taken 😉
Best
Jeff
Paul
Hi Jeff, yes to both and I don’t recommend it for the newer machines. If you really need something to blow snow a long way spend the extra $200 up front and/or buy a new model with a 4 blade impeller and or 14 inch diameter impeller.
I know that today most of the snow blower buyers don’t have the mechanical/machinists knowledge to get the bolts in the exact same place on every fin. They don’t know the proper way to install the bolts so that the snow doesn’t wear off the threads. They don’t know the proper ways to secure the bolts so they don’t vibrate loose. You CAN NOT install a paddle mod using an electric hand drill and expect the snow blower to last. The edge of the impeller spins too fast for that. If you don’t get it exactly right you can set up a vibration/harmonic in the machine that tears out bearings/gearboxes and belts. YOu may not be able to feel it but it’s there.
Jeffrey Ellis
Thanks again! I really appreciate it!
Jerry Strojny
Hi Paul,
I’m in Burlington WI. Not willing to drop a bunch of coin on a new machine, but I have heard there is a barely used 27-28″ Jonsered for $575. (I’m told it is just a Husqvarna painted red.) I don’t know the exact model yet, but I also have no experience with Jonesred. I have a 3 car wide drive…about 25 feet long, and then probably about 300 feet of 4′ wide sidewalk (gotta love the corner lots…) Is this worth the money? Is it overkill for me? Thanks for any advice you may offer.
Jerry
Paul
Jerry, The 27 inch Jonsered is the same machine as the Husqvarna ST227P which retails for $999. If I remember correctly they were pushing that brand in 2014. I don’t remember if it had hand warmers (they are worthless anyway) Otherwise it’s the same.
Every manufacturer has sub-brands so they can sell in stores or dealers in the same town. For example, if a dealer wants to sell Cub Cadet but he has an existing dealer to close they will offer him the Columbia brand instead.
So Jonsered is the alternative dealer brand for Husqvarna. (Poulan Pro is exclusively a retail brand for the box stores) Tractor Supply carried the riding mowers for one year but I can’t remember if they carried the snow blowers.
It’s a good size for your drive. It’s also a good snow blower for the amount of snow you usually get.
Paul
Hi Paul,
Very informative website – really appreciate your time and talents putting it together. I live in Draper UT, with an environment much like Brian from Salt Lake has described, though with more hills and more snow as I live in the foothills. Area to clear is pretty much limited only by my time and energy level. I have a number of elderly neighbors or others nearby that either can’t or shouldn’t be out trying to clear their drives and sidewalks. During our last storm (~14″) I borrowed another neighbor’s Troybilt 24″ and spent 5 hours working my way up and down the street. So what I’m looking for is a heavy duty machine that will speed up the process and/or let me do more driveways before I poop out.
So thankful my neighbor let me borrow their machine, and it worked great, given its limitations. My main complaints were:
1) Snow wouldn’t throw far enough to get it all the way off the driveway (some drives up to 45′ wide/deep to reach the yard area)
2) Having to bend down and hand crank the chute to switch sides or make adjustments
3) Too much energy manhandling the machine to turn it around at the end of the row
4) Probably not heavy duty enough to handle the amount of work I threw at it on a repeat basis
After much time spent here on your site, I believe I’ve narrowed my choices to:
1) Troybilt Arctic Storm 30″ or 34″
2) Ariens Platinum 30 SHO
3) Future issue Ariens 30″+ SHO or Professional with EFI
Questions:
1) On the Troybilt, your video walkaround shows a 4 blade 14″ impeller. However, the specs when I follow the link to Northern Tool show only a 3 blade 12″ impeller. Do I need to go to the dealer to find the 4 blade version? Throw distance is pretty high on my priorities list.
2) On the Ariens, how big of an issue is it that the chute is entirely metal, vs. the poly wear section in the Troybilt that allows me to replace that section if/when it wears out? I can buy the Platinum 30” SHO version for $1,299 right now, model 921040. Ariens’ website shows the current model to be 921051, with a substantially higher price tag. What is the difference between the two? I’m willing to pay more to get a better machine, but don’t want to pay just to get a 2016 build vs. a 2015 that is virtually the same.
3) Ariens has come out with two models that have EFI rather than carburetor. However, they don’t have a 30”+ SHO model yet that gives me the size and throwing distance I’m looking for. I do like that it would use less fuel (and produce less pollution – refer to Brian from Salt Lake’s comments about our bad pollution levels here in the winter), and be less prone to gumming up (even though I try to be careful about adding Sea Foam to my fuel, keep up with maintenance, etc.). Any idea if Ariens will add to their model line later in 2017 to put EFI on their bigger machines? Should I wait and see?
4) Seems like I should stick with a 30” model, rather than stepping up to an even larger one. Even though I’d like a monster machine to bust out driveways in no time flat, I’m trying to be wise and find the right balance. First, I’m working in a hilly area, and a bigger machine might want to slide down the hills more. Second, I may need the option to put the snow blower in the back of my truck to move it around the neighborhood to help others too far away to walk to. Third, storage space, etc. Do you agree that 30” gives me the speed to work faster, yet the flexibility to move it around as needed?
5) Any other suggestions for another machine I should look at, or wait for? I can pull the trigger on a purchase anytime between now and next November. Willing to spend up to $2,000 to get the right machine that works for me now and well into the future, or even more if there were a big reason to step up. Willing to do my own maintenance, though I’ll have to learn. As with anything, the more bullet-proof and simple the better. For that reason I sort of lean towards the manual lever for the chute control on the Ariens vs. the thumbstick electric control on the Troybilt. The thumbstick seems like it would be easier and faster to use, but is one more thing to go wrong as well.
Appreciate any and all feedback or ideas you have for me. Oh yeah, to follow up on your question to Brian from Salt Lake… though there is no salt in the snow while it is falling, there is plenty on the roads once the plough trucks hit the streets. So the big piles at the end of the driveway are pretty well full of the stuff! Something to keep in mind as I clean and maintain the machine, I presume?
Thanks,
Paul
Paul
Paul, Thank you for such an in-depth comment.
I’m going to list the three best machines for you based on my experience. Then I’ll answer your questions.
1. Ariens Platinum SHO model 921051. I wish I could recommend the older version but Ariens re-designed this new version to steer correctly. The older version always had an issue with the Auto-Turn where it would over-steer randomly. It made the snow blower a real pain to use on rough concrete and gently sloping driveways. By the way this snow blower has the most power and throwing distance of any of the heavy-duty machines. It will cut your clearing time at least 50% over the Troy-Bilt 24 inch machines. This is a dealer only model.
2. Toro Power Max HD 1028 OHXE (38802). Link to Toro’s Website. This snow blower has a 10 HP motor and it’s plenty for any snow you may get. Toro uses a different, patented way to move snow inside the machine and it does not need the high horsepower. This is literally the most dependable high capacity snow blower on the market. If you don’t have a Toro dealer nearby you can order this directly from Toro. They will either send it to you or to a local dealer who will set it up. (It’s a 20 minute job to set it up)
3. Troy-Bilt Arctic Storm 30. Link To Troy-Bilt’s website. I like the Arctic Storm. It’s what Troy-Bilt needed to stay in the heavy-duty game. I Know it will be a good machine over the years but the Toro and Ariens have years of dependability. If you can’t find it locally you can buy directly from Troy-Bilt
Questions:
1) It has a 14 inch, 4 blade impeller. (the 3090 XP has the 12 inch) Companies like Northern Tool usually enter the information on these snow blowers all at one time into their databases. It’s dull, boring work. The entry data person sometimes makes a mistake. Always believe the manufacturer’s website or their parts list.
2) The chute on the Ariens doesn’t wear out, bind and won’t need to be replaced. You may have to repaint the inside once in a while if you run a lot of gravel through it. The Chute on the Toro is guaranteed for life. In the last 15 years I have yet to find anyone who ever had a problem with it. Somewhere on this site I tell the story of how tough the electric chute is on the Troy-Bilt. It’s been around now over 6 years and doesn’t break.
3) EFI will be on all gas snow blower engines eventually but it will be a slow process. I wouldn’t wait.
4) I agree, the 28-30 inch models I listed are very easy to use. The Ariens and Toro are really balanced well. You’ll actually like using them better than the Troy-Bilt 24
5) You will get many years out these 3 choices.
Paul
Excellent, thank you for your guidance and tips!
Ralph
Any idea if Ariens will be putting the EFI engines into the 28SHO next year. I need to replace my 28″ but if not I’ll buy a 30″
Paul
Hi Ralph, sorry I’m late. I asked Ariens and they said they would have to wait and see how this year finishes out and the amount of requests they had for it. The dealer order sheets come out in May so they may make up their mind by then.
Don Reiter
Hi Paul, just wanted to thank you for an article like us for new owners like myself. Someone had mentioned in another thread about a Printer Friendly version. That would be really handy for people like me who would like to ensure we have something to remind us when and what to do for maintenance, and proper learning. Have a great day!
Don
Paul
Hi Don, I’m working on developing a printer friendly version but as usual it’s taking way too long. Thanks for reminding me to put it higher up on my priority list.
Brian
Hi Paul. Here are my stats:
Salt Lake City, UT. appx. 60 inches a year. Sometimes the greatest snow on earth(dry powder) but other times lake effect wet snow.
Level Driveway 20×40 and side pad and concrete patio all adjacent to the house add an additional 650 sqft. So including the driveway 1450 total square feet.
I have a few things I am trying to take into consideration.
1. We have horrible air pollution in the winter due to the inversion(worst air in the country on some of these days).
2. My father-in-law lost two of his fingers to a snowblower last year. So my wife is terrified of the machines.
3. I travel a lot for work so I hope and pray that there could be an option that my 5’4″ petit wife could handle if we get storm while I’m on the road.
I honestly had never considered an electric option until I saw this review for the Snow Joe SJ 623E http://www.toptenreviews.com/home/outdoor/best-snow-blowers/
Am I crazy to think that could cut it?
Last question. When is the best time to buy a snowblower? I have never owned one before and can continue shoveling if you recommended that I should just suck it up and get a 2 stage beast that is going to cost me $1200 but if I wait until spring I can save 35%… Anyway thanks in advance for your guidance.
Paul
Hi Brian, Welcome! I have a question to ask? Is the snow from Salt Lake saltly? I went looking on Google and could not find an answer. I suspect that since your lake effect snow is created by evaporation that it’s not.
I can understand your wife’s opinion of 2-stage snow blowers. Most of the models under $1000 will plug on wet, heavy snow and you MUST turn the engine off and use the clearing stick if it plugs. Even with the engine off there can be residual tension in the system that can slice right through fingers.
There are three problems with the list of snow blowers you linked to. 1. Even though the front intake height may be 10 inches they only, really work in 3-4 inches well. 2. They really only throw good snow 5-10 feet. 3. They are not self-propelled. You have to push them through the snow like a shovel and most weigh 35-40 lbs. They don’t pull themselves through the snow like the gas powered single stage machine will.
In addition, the one they chose as the best is corded. You need to drag a 75-100 foot, 12 gauge cord around with you when blowing snow.
The best prices on the good snow blowers is Sept through November but even then the price won’t vary that much. Instead they will add warranty years or include accessories. Snowblowers don’t use model years so they don’t get rid of everything in the spring like an auto dealership does in the fall. The models don’t change from year to year if it’s a good machine. There are some models of snow blowers currently sold that have had no changes for seven years! There can be good deals on snow blowers no one wants through the online junk houses like factorydirectsale.
So, The electrics are too small and your wife is scared of the 2-stage. I normally suggest a 2-stage for your area but in this case there is one other snow blower that will work for you. It will easily handle 14 inch snows and can handle 18-20 inchers if it has to. It will throw snow three times farther than the electrics so it will save you a lot of work and time. It’s also faster than using a 2-stage. For most 2-10 inch snow it will clear your area up to twice as fast. It’s as easy as a push mower to use.
And finally, it doesn’t plug. It won’t plug like a two stage and it won’t cake full of snow like typical single stage.
There are two models. The model I really recommend is about $900. The model that will also work for you but won’t be as fast is about $750. This time of year though Home Depot may only have the $750 one anyway.
Toro SnowMaster 824 QXE 24 in. Gas Snow Blower
Toro SnowMaster 724 QXE 24 in. 2-Stage Gas Snow Blower
Here are two articles/videos of the machine I suggest: Toro SnowMaster 724 QXE or 824 QXE Unboxing and Toro SnowMaster 824 QXE Test
Brian
Thank You Paul! I really appreciate your willingness to share your wisdom and expertise! You have a gift.
Brian
I forgot to answer your question. No, the snow is not salty. As the water evaporates from the lake the salt stays behind. Due to the salinity of the water it does take a lot longer for the water to freeze. The lake is at a record low so there is not much out there anyway.
James McDonald
Good morning Paul. I have picked up a lot of very useful info from your snow blower reviews and moving snow.com but haven’t seen anything regarding my situation and hope you can take some time to educate me. My recreational property is in the British Columbia interior. The road is plowed regularly leaving a hard, ice –like berm at the end of my snow filled gravel driveway by the time I get there. There is also the large pile of snow that slides off the roof in front of my door. I’m not there to keep the driveway clear after the street plow comes. I’m looking at buying a Murray 29” / 14.5 slightly used snow blower (305cc) in hopes that it will chop threw the icey berm if I pick at it slowly and clear away the snow on my 60’ gravel driveway. Sometimes the snow is 24” high/deep. Am I dreaming or could this murray do the job? I appreciate and thank you for your time.
Paul
HI James, The Murray, has also been marketed as the Simplicity, JOhn Deere, Briggs&Stratton, Craftsman Professional MD. It will do the job – slowly. An Ariens Platinum 30 SHO will do the same work in half the time. That said, if you have the time and don’t mind helping the snow blower once in while by chopping down the drifts with a snow shovel it will get the job done. It actually was one of the better snow blower designs during the 90’s and early 2000’s.
Tim
Paul,
My parents have offered to buy my a snowblower for Christmas to replace a 40 year old Ford model which has been on its last legs for a while. I live in Frederick, Maryland, where we’ve had 20 inch snow events about 5 times in the last 20 years. Some years we have no snowfalls significant enough to justify use of a blower and other years we have ones which can be measured in feet. Our lack of consistent need for a blower is the reason I have limped along for several years with the machine I currently have. I have a short but steep driveway and longer but flat sidewalk b the street which I am responsible for clearing. I’m pretty sure a 24 inch two stage is a good compromise between price and power. Initially, my parents offered to buy me a Cub Cadet 524 WE from Costco for $700. It appears to be essentially the same as the SWE model with the exception of no power steering. However, after looking at you list of top twenty (which the SWE is on), there is also the Craftsman 88173, which seems very similar and is currently $600. So, my questions are: is there a preference between these two models, how significant is the loss of power steering, and is there any other model in this price range you would select before these two for my situation?
Thanks for your time. I really appreciate your site; it has been very helpful.
Paul
Hi Tim, they are very similar. The Craftsman has a simpler chute control and I actually like it a lot better. It will last.
The biggest item to think about is service. Sears has their own parts network and their own service network so you always know where to go to get parts and service. Where do you get service on an item bought at CostCo? I don’t know. Do they carry the essential items you need like shear pins, a spare spark plug or auger belt? No. Will your local independent Cub Cadet dealer even help you get repairs from a CostCo bought machine? Don’t get me wrong – I like CostCO – it’s just not the way to buy gas powered lawn equipment.
Tim
Thanks, Paul. I too love Costco and have found their service to be great but you are spot on that they would be no help with repairs. We do have a local Cub Cadet dealer that would likely service it should I need it but it’s still a point well taken. Considering that the Craftsman is $100 cheaper too, I think that might be my choice. I plan to call the Cub Cadet dealer tomorrow to check their price (it’s a local business and if I can support them, I’d like to). But right now, I’m leaning towards the Craftsman.
Thanks again.
Paul
@Tim, the Cub Cadet dealer’s price should be the same for the WE. It appears CostCo has no special deal this year. When you go into the dealer ask him how he handles the COSTco warranty repairs. You may have to take it to a repair center – not your dealer.
Michael Palazzolo
Hi Paul, I have been learning so much on this website and reading your reviews, top choices for 2016 and FAQs. I think I am now pretty well educated on the snow machines, but just stuck on choosing the best model for my property. I am looking to make a long term investment. I live in Rochester Hills MI, I am 5’6 male in good shape, but not looking for an intense workout! I have about 100 foot long drive that is 2 cars wide at the street then expands to 3 car width near garage, this area is about 27 feet wide by 40 feet long and does require some turns near garage and porch. I also have a half circle or horseshoe drive in front of the house that is 13 feet wide and about 96 feet in additional length. I have city sidewalks running across my property as well that are 5 ft wide and about 100 ft at least in length. I am shopping two stage units mainly at my local Lowes. Specifically the Ariens Deluxe 28 with 254cc, Troy-Bilt Storm 3090 XP with 357cc and Husqvarna 27 or 30 inch models (200 series I believe with 254 or 291cc respectively). I have some trust in Ariens name and build quality from friends recommendations. I like cast iron gear case, the larger 14 inch Auger, utter simplicity of chute controls and auto turn seems like it may be friendlier on my half circle drive. The Troy-Bilt offers many features and this site speaks highly of the unit. My concerns are joystick operation with thick gloves and just does not appear to have the same level of build quality, metal parts etc as others. The sales associate at Lowes was highly encouraging the Husqvarna units from his personal experience, build quality seems higher than Troy-Bilt and controls seem pretty intuitive. I should note I want to do as little maintenance as possible outside of changing oil and good gas practices. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated on choice of a unit, proper width and importance of larger auger. Thank you in advance for your help.
Paul
Hi Michael, If you buy from Lowes make sure you understand how to get repair parts and how to get it serviced under warranty. It is not always as simple as buying it from that box store and then taking it to your nearest Ariens, Husqvarna or Troy-Bilt dealer to get it repaired. Your local dealer has the same prices – just say’n.
My choice, 1. The 2016 Ariens Deluxe 28 (gray wheels) Simple controls, no frills but built to last years and years and years. Least amount of things to wear out of the three. Most, if not all the time this snow blower will always blow the snow completely off your driveway, even the 27 foot wide area. 2. Troy-Bilt 3090 XP. Has been around the longest, has all the bells and whistles (the hand warmers actually warm your hands) and really is a very good snow blower for the price. It does have low handles so it really works well for shorter people. 3. The Husqvarna 200 series. I like the dash and the adjustable heights handles. The rest of the snow blower is built for the type and amount of snow you get.
Michael Palazzolo
Thank you kindly Paul, very good info and helpful. Do you think the Troy Bilt can throw snow up to 50 ft as rated? Thanks
Paul
Hi Michael, I never read that it will throw 50 feet. But it doesn’t plug and will throw 30 feet all day long. 30 feet is about normal for most 2 stage snow blowers.
Bob K
Hi again, been doing tons more reading on your site, cross-checking with Consumer Reports and am leaning towards Ariens line. Looks like 28″ is good match for my needs. Platinum series comments caught my attention – “best in the industry for ease of use, throwing distance, capacity and long life.” Brief thoughts on why Platinum that much better than 921046 / 921048? Why 921053 over 921050 for extra $300? Getting excited for a snowstorm! :o)
Paul
Hi Bob, The Platinum series has large powerful motors that really can power through most any snow. 369 cc on a 24 inch is over-the-top power.
The 921-53 has the new EFI (electronic fuel injection) engine. It will eliminate any fuel issues – period.
Bob K
Thanks Paul. Is over-the-top way overkill for my needs / What would you have recommended? With EFI, which of your fuel mgmt precautions still apply?
Paul
Hi Bob, I’m the wrong guy to ask that question. I own an 8 hp, 24 inch snow blower myself even though I only “need” a 4 hp, 24 inch. Of course the 8 hp never plugs and it’s so much fun watching it blow snow half-way across the county…….
1. I always put 2 tablespoons of Sea Foam in every gallon of gas when I buy it. So even if the EFI may never need it – it’s in the gas. 2. My fuel can has a tendency to sit where I last used it so it doesn’t always get put inside. So I switched to the non-vented cans and never have a problem – even if the can gets left out in the rain. No-Spill 1405 2-1/2-Gallon Poly Gas Can.
other than that please read the manual and follow the procedures to the letter.
James
Hi Paul,
I have a new 5 gallon plastic gas can, an older model. If I seal the cap with plastic to make it airtight, will that suffice? Also, is a 5 gallon tank a recommended size for use several times a month? I plan to use fresh gas each month. Thank you!
Paul
Hi James, the hardest part is remembering or wanting to do that in the middle of a snow storm. Most of thee snow blowers use about 3/4 gallon an hour. Multiply that times how long it takes to move your snow and how many times a month it snows. For most people 2.5 gallon is all they need.
J. Marqs
Hi Paul: thank you for the reply.
I am really impressed by the Toro ACS and “engine” features… Given my particular needs described above, would you suggest either the Toro Powermax CTS 826 OXE (Model # 37781 at $1,799.00) vs Power Max 826 OE (Model # 37780 at $1,196.00).
Since they both have a 252cc OHV engine, Is the 50% cost increase only bells/whistles?
Thank you again for any advice.
Joe.
Paul
@J.Marqs, I suggest going into a Toro delaer and have them show you the difference. On paper they have the same engine but the PowerMax HD has twice the capacity. It will also thor snow 20% farther. Have them show you why.
J. Marqs
Hi Paul: my snowblower search has ended with the Toro PowerMax HD826-OXE from a local dealer 5-mins away from me instead of one of your links… SORRY but I have NOT been impressed by the local “big guys” that carry Toro, resulting in concerns about after-sales service.
MAY I TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE… I probably would have made the wrong purchase without the information and knowledge you offer on your website.
It is without reservation, that I will absolutely inform all of my known contacts, to seek out and trust you for their needs.
Thank you, thank you, thank you !
Best wishes always.
Joe.
Paul
Hi J,Marqs, I’m glad you found the best place for you to buy from. Your local dealer is always the best choice.
Ryan
Hi Paul,
Great website! I used your lawn mower site to help me pick my mower, which ended up being a great choice. I live in southwest WI. Snow type is variable, can be fluffy or very heavy, but usually no more than 18 inches per 24 hour period. I live in a hilly area, so winds can be high and big drifts are common. I need to clear a gravel driveway about 300 feet, with a moderate climb. I know I should probably get a snow mover attached to a vehicle, but that is not an option right now. I often read that snow removal attachments for riding lawn mowers aren’t very effective, so I haven’t pursued those.
I’m thinking I need something quite heavy duty, likely 30+ inch width. I’m uncertain if I need something with tracks, as I don’t see myself using it on grass.
Consumer reports recommends the cub cadet 3x 30hd, but I would like to hear your thoughts between some on the 300-series Husqvarna blowers, Troy Bilt Arctic Storm xp 34, and some of the higher end Ariens.
Thanks Paul!
Paul
Hi Ryan, I know your drifts well. I drive through there going down to see all my relatives in Clinton, IA.
Just remember, CR tests them out on sawdust in a controlled pit. They don’t get a chance to use them on your 4 and 5 foot drifts that get so hard you can walk on them. The 3-stage snow blower have a reputation for breaking shear pins in hard packed snow.
So, I would rather suggest the Troy-Bilt 34 if you have a Lowes close enough. I like the ST330P Husqvarna. It has plenty of power and will handle 18 inch snows well. The hydrostatic transmissions really is fun to use. Either one is a good choice.
The Ariens Platinum 30 SHO is another great snow blower. With the long driveway you may like the trigger steering on the Troy-Bilt a little bit more. Make sure you buy the 2016 version of the Ariens (Model 921051)
Rick & Kathy
Hi Paul my name is Rick we live in Fruitland Idaho. A normal snow year here is about 16-24″ . This year four feet and more coming ? I am looking for a snow blower for the first time. Being a rancher I’ve ran equipment but never a snow blower, I still have a tractor with front end loader for big areas if needed, but thought maybe a snow blower might help. My drive way is 150′ long, gravel, flat and three cars wide, plus sidewalks and gravel around a large shop and parking areas of 1000′ lf more or less; areas which cannot be cleared with the tractor. Looking at Toro 1028 HD per your reviews was wondering if a 928 HD would be enough with our normal 20″ of snow ?? Paul I think your reviews, videos and comments are a real service !!! Thanks for your time and wisdom Rick P.S. Paul we are 50 miles west of Boise on the Oregon border with 100 roofs collapsed this year! not a normal year Thanks again
Paul
Hi Rick & Kathy, Of course I always like more power but that is the only difference between the two snow blowers. 9 HP or 10 HP will not make any difference for your normal snows. So, Yes, the 928 is a good choice.
Rick and Kathy
Thanks Paul, Home Depot manager said their snow blower season is over. So I contacted my local Toro dealer basic mom and pop repair shop; no inventory. He called me back and got the 1028 hd for two hundred sixty five dollars more than the 928 hd and two hundred dollars cheaper than home depot. Paul I’m going for the extra horse power; on the ranch we have a saying I think you’ll appreciate: “Its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it” LOL! Paul thanks again and keep up the good work you’re helping a lot of folks !!!!
J. Marqs
Paul: thank you for the great info on your site. I live in southern Ontario, Canada and we get SNOW. My driveway is 30x150ft and to compound the task, I am not able to throw the snow to either side due to neighbouring properties thus, I have to “push” it to either the front or rear yards. Currently, I need to replace my 15yr old 27in MurraySelect and after much online and local-store researching, I have narrowed the choice down to the following: (1)Husqvarna 30-in 291cc 2-Stage; (2)DHT 76.2 cm (30 in.) Gas-Powered 302 cc, Tracked, Dual-Stage (sold thru Costco); (3)Cub Cadet 357cc 28-in Two-Stage (at Lowes); (4)CRAFTSMAN®/MD 27″ Dual Stage 250cc B&S EZ-Steer or maybe their 30″ unit (Sears). I am 64, only 5’6″ but in great condition. Any advice will be much appreciated. Keep up the great work.
Thank you in advance.
Joe.
Paul
Hi J.Marqs, The group of snow blowers you found are all pretty much under powered. Unless you like spending all day clearing snow I suggest at least a 357 on a 28 inch or 30 inch snow blower. In fact I’d suggest finding a Cub Cadet 2-stage, a Husqvarna 300 series or an Ariens 30 inch with the 420 cc engine.
I would stay away from the DHT right now. NO ONE carries parts in stock for their products. To get parts you really need to call the company (during business hours) and order the parts through them. They are promising to help you find a local repair shop to help you change out the part. Living in Canada you could be without a snow blower for a week or much longer.
James McDonald
hello Paul…I’ve learned a lot from this site thank you, but haven’t been seen any questions about berms or the snow that slides off the roof and sits. i have recreational property in the interior of BC Canada. The main road is plowed regularly, and because i don’t live there and not able to remove that hard compacted berm left by that plow, it gets to be 2.5′ high, sometime higher. Is there a snow blower that you can recommend that may cut through it or am i dreaming? i’ve been looking at 26″ to 30″ blowers with 250 to 357cc.
thank you James
Paul
Hi James, High horsepower snow blowers will throw more snow over time so the larger the engine for the size of the machine, the better for deep, heavy snow. So 250cc for a 26 inch, 327 for a 28 and 420 for a 30.
Cutting the first pass through a tall drift is usually the hardest part of clearing your snow berm. If you can work at the snow from the side of the drift it is easier but still time consuming.
Most brand have model with drift cutters or optional drift cutters. Here are couple of quick videos that show you how they are used.
Graham
Hi Paul,
Great site with lots of great info. I am looking to get a 2 stage snow thrower and would like to spend $1000 or up to $1300 if necessary. I narrowed some choices and would like your opinion.
1. Ariens 24 deluxe or Toro Power Master 826 OXE (both around $1000)
a. Ariens has bigger wheels (16” vs 13” – is this a big plus or not)
b. Toro is lighter but same engine power
c. Ariens has 14” auger vs 11” for Toro but Toro has that patented never clog auger entrance
2. Toro Power Master 826 OXE ($1000) vs HD 826 OXE – is the HD ($1300) worth the extra money?
a. Bigger wheels on HD
b. Heavier machine with bigger 14” auger
I have a corner lot so 325 ft of bluestone sidewalk
A 115 ft straight single car lane that flairs out to 3 car wide at detached garage
A 185 ft circular driveway in front of the house.
Two end of driveways at the road and one in the corner that plow operators wait for me to clear before they plow it back in.
I live in NJ near Newark
Paul
Hi Graham, the HD will get it done faster. It will throw it farther. It has trigger power steering so for your long walkways it will be easier to keep going in a straight line. If you don’t mind spending the money it will be the last one you have to buy.
Tony
Hi Paul, no worries at all. Do you have an suggestions for the brick walkway? We have that small electric but I don’t want to damage the brick, nor the machine. Thanks again!
Paul
Hi Tony, The Snow Master has poly skid shoes and a poly scraper bar. it won’t scratch your walkway. Any other snow blower I suggest getting the poly skid shoes and put a 1/4 inc gap under the scraper.
VL
Hi Paul,
Thanks for all the information you have gathered here. I live close to Montreal, Quebec, Canada. We get around 236cm (~92″) of snow per year. I have a 120′ long by 12′ wide driveway whit a small slope at my entry, and a backyard that is 30’x30′ that I’d like to clear this winter.
People in my surroundings tell me Honda is the only true way to go, since they are made to last long, so I’ve been looking mostly for them and find they are very expensive and not sure if it is the right path to take. I looked at what Honda had to offer, I like their track drives and the suspension it has on it, especially if my girlfriend would need to use it.
My questions are, what would you suggest I get? Would I need and electric starter (for my gf) vs a starter handle, I would do my own maintenance and take good care of my tools? I have read what you have answered to JP earlier about the Ariens’s model 921052 and 926067, do they compare well against a Honda HSS928ACT?
Thanks for all your good advice.
Paul
Hi VL, If you buy an Ariens and let the people around you use it a few times you will quickly see all of them put for sale signs on their Honda’s. Why?
1. The new Honda machines are unproven. They are not the well built, dependable machines yu neighbors own. They announced them last year, got a very few sold and recalled all of them. They had a transmission issue. Yes, they fixed the problem and I salute fro pulling all the product but because of that we never got a chance to really test them.
2. The cost of the Honda’s are way out of line for the quality that is in the product. Yes, it’s now American made but so is the Ariens.
3. Honda wants like $300 for electric start? Every other brand includes it in the price of the snow blower and still sells their machine for about 1/2 of what Honda wants.
4. The Ariens does not clog. There has already been complaints where the new Honda’s clog on heavy snow and can’t handle gravel/turf. The tolerances inside the impeller are too tight and it’s tearing up the housing.
6. Both the 921052 and 926067 will throw snow as far or farther than the Honda.
7. The Ariens 926067 is arguably the toughest snow blower on the market. In fact I don’t know if anyone would argue that it’s not. It has automatic power steering so it is easy to drive.
8. It’s impossible to get exact power ratings on snow blower engines but the Ariens 921052 has about 30% more power than the Honda and the 926067 has twice the power. The Briggs engine on the 926067 is rated as a professional engine and will give you the same life as the Honda GX.
9. Ariens snow blower are built to last. In fact many of the first machines built in the 60’s are still in use. Ariens has built their reputation on the strength of their snow blowers. You will never wish you bought a Honda.
One of movingsnow’s readers just created a video using the 921052 on dry pavement and grass. You can tell the machine is easy enough to drive
Steve C
Hi Paul, thanks for running a very helpful site. I live in the Rochester NY area and I have an asphalt driveway about 100ft long, 10ft wide that goes up a pretty steep hill, then into an L-shaped landing/parking area that’s about 3500 sq ft. I am looking for a snow blower for the landing area (I think drive is too steep and I don’t mind shoveling that). That area has my house on one side and detached garage on the other, so I need to be able to direct the discharge and change it easily. The big part of the area is about 70 ft by 35 ft, the other part maybe 40 by 30. I have no experience with snow blowers, been a shovel guy all my life, but with a job this big and 2/3 my labor force off at college, I need to take the plunge. With a 5 acre lot I also have garage full of other gas engine yard equipment, so I want something reliable that won’t have me turning wrenches all the time. Any suggestions?
Paul
Hi Steve, My comment system loses stuff once in a while and I just found your question. Sorry. Living in Rochester you can get plenty of snow so first I’m going to suggest a heavy-duty snow blower. Ariens Platinum, Toro PowerMax HD, Troy-Bilt Artic Storm and Husqvarna 300 series for starters. These snow blowers will last and have the horsepower to throw snow all the way off your driveway without having to re-blow the snow. Second, I am going to suggest a 28 or 30 inch size. The Troy-Bilt 34 will also work.
Third, I am going to give you a list in a minute but if you don’t buy through Home Depot or Amazon be sure you like your local dealer. There is no use buying a good snow blower that you may have a hard time getting parts for because the dealer is worthless.
So, Go to this page and look at No. 3, 13, and 15. By the way number 15 will work on all areas including the steep drive.
Finally, If Ariens is your choice please find you local dealer and look at the Ariens Platinum 30
Steve C
Thanks Paul, I’ll check it out.
Daniel L.
Hi Paul,
I just bought the new Ariens Deluxe 24 [2016 model] from Lowe’s. My question is about summer storage. I’ve read different “philosophy” on storing it with gas or no gas in the tank. What are your thoughts? Do I store the snowblower with a tank of gas with stabilizer or do I run the machine until it goes dry?
Paul
@Daniel, follow the operator’s manual. I like the third option: 1. Store it with fuel stabilizer 2. before you go to put it away start it and then turnoff the fuel shut off. 3. Let it run until it runs out of fuel. 4. then fill the tank to the top with stabilized fuel.
Dave M.
XHI Paul, I just purchased the cub Cadet 524 swe at Lowe’s & will have it in 2 weeks. I was wondering if I could use synthetic oil,what grade, & if is a benefit in doing so. I live in Thunder Bay Ontario & it can get very cold in January & February; the blower will be kept covered in my carport.
Paul
Hi Dave, If you use regular oil too long it not only fills up with dirt and soot but it will also loose it’s lubricating qualities. Dip your index finger in oil, rub it with your thumb. It is slippery. Do the same thing with bad oil and it feels like water or it has no lubricating qualities.
Good synthetic oil does not loose it’s lubrication qualities – ever. It may become contaminated with dirt but it still doesn’t go bad. Mobil One has a test semi where they use Mobil One and take the oil out every 10,000 and filter the oil in a special filter that removes most/all particles. After 3 million miles the oil still has the same lubrication qualities as when it was new.
I use Mobil One in everything and have since the 80’s. I’ve never had an engine failure and I’ve driven a few cars to 400,000 miles.
I believe your new snow blower comes with 5W-30 synthetic already in it.
Steve
Hi Paul –
Great site!
I’m in Minneapolis area. (Minnetonka, MN) Driveway is about 100 ft by 25ft wide and is paved concrete so not smooth surface like regular concrete or asphalt. Driveway is pretty much open on both sides to throw snow.
Im looking for around 28″ long term use. Max price range around $1200
A few models im looking at is:
Craftsman 88874 Pro series: can get one for about $1150
Toro 38801 or 38802: $1500 but is getting out of my price range
Ariens: I hear good things, but don’t know much about them
Heated handles sound like a nice feature but on more expensive model and limited models and not sure how well they work.
Any other brands/Model to recommend? I’m pretty open to any and all suggestions
Thanks!
Paul
Hi Steve, You don’t need the 88874. For Minneapolis snow you can get by with most any 28 inch. Even the Craftsman 28″ 243cc Dual-Stage Snowblower with Quiet Engine will work, though it is a little under powered. That said,
I’m not a big fan of the 3-stage machines so instead of the Craftsman Pro I would suggest the Craftsman 30″ 357cc Dual-Stage Snowblower w/ EZ Steer Electric 4-Way Chute Control. All around this is a very good dependable snow blower.It’s balanced well, has plenty of power and is just and enjoyable snow blower to use. For the Midwest it is always one of my top choices.
Tony
Thanks for the great site! I am considering the Snowmaster 824 QXE for our first winter in Exeter, NH. The driveway is one car wide x 120′ long, somewhat sloped, and ends in a 35′ square. One corner of this square is boxed in by the garage, some ornamental shrubs and then the driveway. I’d probably need to move the snow twice to get it out of this corner.
Would any of these be deal-breakers for the Snowmaster? I don’t mind it being less than perfect for blizzards, as long as it’s competent. My biggest concern is not missing 1+ hours of work every time it snows throughout the year. Blizzards, people will understand.
Cleaning to the pavement is a big plus, if it prevents a sheet of ice from forming due to thaw/refreeze cycles.
We also have a 30″ x 60′ walkway made of very uneven brick, not sure how to best clear that. We own an electric (Snow Joe SJ621) as well.
And finally, how would the 824 or a $1000-$1500 2-stage handle snow that’s crusted over for a few days? We travel fairly often so hiring a plow for those occasions might be necessary.
Paul
Hi Tony, Sorry, I’m running really late this week. The SnowMaster weighs half as much as a 24 inch Ariens Deluxe so it will be harder to clean some crusted over 12-15 inch snow. It would handle 6 inches or so just fine.
The big thing about the snowmaster is it fast. Twice as fast as a 208 cc 24 inch machine. It will also handle 12 inch plus snowfalls well. If you are forecasted for a Blizzard going out in the middle of the storm and clearing most of the driveway will help a lot at the end of the storm.
So, here is my suggestion. Get the 824 and use it this year. If you found that it struggles clearing your snow more than 30% of the time keep it for the light days and then next year buy a 2-stage. Many of us have a 2-stage for the big stuff and then a single stage for the light snows. The SnowMaster is really a great alternative because it’s faster than a 2-stage for the light stuff and will handle handle snow better than a single stage.
Jeff
Hi Paul, GREAT site!
I’m looking for a new snowblower, and have read so much I’ve just confused myself and wondered if you could point me in a direction. You could say paralysis by analysis I guess.
I live in the Western Colorado mountains at 9100 ft, where we generally get 250-300 inches of snow per year. I don’t have a mammoth area to clear: about 100 ft of gravel drive, a 50 ft gravel walking path from the house to the detached garage, an area for dog to run, and a 3 car concrete area in front of garage doors. My largest headache is that the metal garage roof slopes down toward the doors instead of the sides of the garage, and thus, it sheds snow right in front of the garage doors (bad design for snow, but apparently was the only way to get a 3+ car width garage with community roof height covenants). The property is not completely flat, but not steep by mountain standards
I’m looking for a machine that can handle the heavy snow, frequent use, gravel surfaces and the roof pile. Due to the remoteness of my area (one hour to nearest small town, three hours to the big cities) reliability is important as well.
Would appreciate any recommendations. Thanks!
Paul
Hi Jeff,Sorry, I’m running really late this week.
I really want to suggest an Ariens Pro 28. It has the power, durability and long life you are looking for. My second choice would be the Ariens Deluxe 30 SHO. It also has a big engine for throwing and heavy snow and is tougher than most other snow blowers.
Check out Duffy’s Outdoor Power Equipment. They will be able to find a snowblower for you and get it set up. Hopefully he is not too far from you. Give him a call either way.
Jeff
Thanks so much, Paul.
Do you have any concerns with auto turn on 3/4 inch gravel or the ability to raise Ariens machine scraper far enough to clear ?
Paul
Hi Jeff, the 2016 auto turn works well on gravel. Most of us set the scraper bar for a 1/4 to 3/8 inch gap. If the ground freezes before it snows it won’t throw rocks. If your gravel is a “normal” drive that is packed down from driving on it they also won’t throw many rocks.
Jeff
Thanks for the info Paul. It appears that Duffys closed at the first of this year.
Paul
Hi Jeff, That’s too bad, They were a great resource for the Rockies.
Jim Backhaus
Hi Paul,
Great information, thanks! I almost bought a Craftsman #88972 on sale, but read quite a few bad reviews about carburator problems and reliability. Now I’m looking into Toro, Troy Bilt. and Husqvarna with larger engines and power turning. Sears seems to have the best extended warranty (in-home service), and I live in a rural area so service is an important factor. I live in coastal Maine on the Canadian border, and we can get some heavy, drifting snow. I have a single-car driveway about 150′ long with a parking area for about 4 cars.
Are Craftsman blowers really that undependable? The other mentioned brands seem to offer better features for the same cost, but lack in the warranty department. Should I only consider buying from a local dealer to insure service?
Jim Backhaus
Eastport, Maine single-car 150′ driveway plus 4-car parking area. Will the Craftsman #88972 handle it?
Paul
Hi Jim, The 88972 will take you a while. If you want a Craftsman the 88394 is a better choice. More power, wider and power steering. It will take less time to clear your drive. Craftsman 28″ 243cc Dual-Stage Snowblower
Paul
Hi Jim, I’m on a mission to help everyone understand fuel related issues so please bear with me. I went over and read the three reviews that stated the snow blower would not start. We don’t know if the new owner used old gas or if they even knew how to start a snow blower. I’m going to guess that Sears has sold anywhere from 5000 to 15,000 of these snow blowers and only 3 people have written bad reviews. I’ll take those odds that I will get a good one. So, I strongly suggest that you don’t use the gas you have left over from your lawn mower in your brand new snow blower. Also buy a brand new, sealed gas can and use a fuel stabilizer. That said,
Your average snow fall is around 40 inches so just most residential snow blowers and a good choice. Craftsman, Cub Cadet, Troy-Bilt and Columbia all use the same engine.
I suggest looking around locally to see what brands are sold. Then stop back and I can help you find a good machine.
Jim Backhaus
Thank you for your time and advice. I listened, and just purchased a Craftsman #88394 and a 5-year home service policy. I’m hoping that it will turn out to be a good choice. I wanted a quiet engine and a good service policy. Also, thanks for the tip on the bigger machine. Two years ago, we had a winter for the record books.
Darren
Paul, great website! I live on a 50 yard paved pipestem in Ashburn, VA (Northern VA). The driveway/ pipestem is 2 car-widths. I currently have an old single stage Craftsman that’s been around for 15 years… it does a decent job (when it runs) and if the snow isn’t too deep. I’d like to replace with a new machine that easier to start, more reliable, and can handle deeper snowfalls. I read all your profiles and reviews and I know you like Ariens and Toro a lot, but I just saw a Costco special today, and I wanted to get your opinion. It’s a Cub Cadet with electric start and it’s self propelled. It’s got a 208cc 4-cycle OHV engine, 24″ clearance width with a 21″ intake. It has 6 speeds forward and 2 in reverse. Is shows the following 2 numbers that seem like model numbers: M#31AM6BSR713 and M#31AM63SR713… I searched the web for it and it looks like to may be the 524 SWE, but I’m not 100% sure since Costco often has versions of items made exclusively for them. Costco is selling it for $699.99. Do you think this will meet my needs? It’s going to be at least 10 times nicer than the machine I currently have. We get 1, maybe 2 big snows a year… more than a foot and a half is rare. I’m a believer that you get what you pay for in life, and that if you buy cheap you’ll be buying again real soon. I don’t want to buy a machine based on price but this looks like a really good value, but I’m far from an expert. Thanks!
Paul
Hi Darren, I’m going to guess it’s the 524 SW. It’s a good machine without power steering. It’s normally priced at Home Depot, Tractor supply and your local dealer for $699. Last year Costco had this model for $650.
If it’s a 524 SWE it will have two small yellow levers – one under each handle. This model has power steering and is almost always priced at $799 or on special sale for $750.
Do you need power steering? Probably not if you do all the snow work yourself. If you are buying it for you and your spouse I suggest spending the extra $100 and get one with power steering.
Darren
Paul, thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately I’m always doing it on my own with a house full of wife and daughters drinking hot chocolate, so while power steering is nice, it’s not 100% necessary 🙂 … In this case, it doesn’t sound like Costco is offering any extra discount or benefit like they may have last year. Should I buy this model/ brand or would you recommend I move in a different direction? Does a couple hundred dollars more get me anything you think I’d really need?
Paul
Hi Darren, you really don’t get a lot of snow so you really don’t need a 2-stage. But I know that once in a while you do need one for deeper snow. So,
I’m going to suggest the Toro SnowMaster 724 QXE. For you this snow blower will be fast. You will be able to clear your driveway twice as fast as using the Cub Cadet. It’s a single stage but it’s unique and can handle 14-18 inch snows in addition to the 2-6 inchers your old snow blower cleared. It also has electric start and automatic power steering. It’s really one of the best snow blowers on the market for your situation.
Pierre
Hi Paul,
I’m considering a new snowblower, my current blower is an ’94 MTD 28″ with a Tecumseh 10hp engine. I have a 70-80 feet long driveway by about 18 feet. My driveway is 75′ long by 18′ wide in very bad shape with a negligible inclination. I have to blow the snow forward by about 30′ before being able to remove it off the driveway (my house, neighbour’s house on each side and garage out back) which leaves pack snow. I’m situated in a Montreal suburb where we get about 80″ of snow a year, the city snowplow leaves a fair amount of packed snow and we frequently have slush and blowing snow. I’m leaning towards an Ariens (platinum SHO 24) or a Toro 1028. The local Ariens dealer is pushing a Columbia blower because they have a better (quicker) access to parts. The Toro dealer is further but still within the county limits. I can’t go wider than 28″ because of the space between my car and a temporary car port. I would really appreciate your advice. What about EFI on the Ariens is the price jump worth it (~$2100 vs $2650)? Would Toro’s design be better suited for slush or packed snow? Any opinion on the recommended Columbia (CA326HD 420cc engine)? Thank you for your time and informative website.
Pierre
Paul
Hi Pierre, The Columbia snow blowers are made by MTD and are labeled as Cub Cadet or Troy-Bilt in the U.S. They are a very different machine than the Ariens and Toro. I generally recommend the 2-stage Columbia’s for up to 60 inches or so and the 3-stage for 80-100. But – the 3-stage machines have a habit of breaking shear pins on the center augers on frozen, packed snow. That center auger spins very fast and it doesn’t take much to break the pin. So if you get the Columbia have a dozen shear pins on hand and make sure you know how to change out the rear, front and side shear pins. So, it will move a lot of snow but it does have that one fault. That said,
The Ariens Platinum SHO 24 will throw the snow farther and has no glitches in the design. It will throw your snow farther than the rest and it won’t plug even with your slush. Parts availability? I would keep a pair of shear pins in a zip lock bag tied to the snow blower but other than that I would not expect that you would need any parts for at least 10 years.
The EFI is the wave of the future but the 369 cc Ariens engine on the 24 inch never gives us any problems.
We can talk about the Toro if you want but the Ariens fits for you. It will consistently throw your snow the 30 feet and will last a long, long, long time.
Brian
I’m looking to upgrade from an old (i think 1970’s) Toro 2 stroke snow shovel. I’m up in Manitoba, CAN. My Toro has worked fine for me though it doesn’t run great. Most people around here have 2 stage snow blowers but I just can’t afford that and I’m perfectly fine with doing some manual shoveling when the machine can’t handle it.
I’m looking at the Briggs and Stratton 1696715. Amazon Canada has it for what seems like a decent price ($530 CDN). Are these good machines for the price? The other one I came across was the Toro 518 ZE, but it’s a bit around $100 more.
Thank you
Paul
Hi Brians, That is a good price for the Briggs and Stratton 1696715. It has the larger 208cc engine and electric start. As long as you use a fuel stabilizer in the fuel it will last.
Brian
Thanks so much! This is a great website.
Don
Hi Paul:
Great website you’ve created here- I posted a comment a while ago but it remained awaiting moderation so I thought I would try again.
I’m moving to near Summerside, PEI (which averages 110 inches of snow per year) and the new house has a 300 x 12 ft paved driveway and 50 by 50 ft parking area. There is a slight incline and I don’t know what the EOD conditions will be like. The area gets a lot of wind so there will be drifts as well. Which snow blower model(s) would suit these conditions? I’ve been considering various TORO, Ariens and Husqvarna models but can’t decide- any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Paul
Hi Don, I don’t know exactly what models are available in Canada. But, I would suggest a 28 inch Toro, a 30 inch Deluxe or Platinum Ariens or a 30 inch ST330P Husqvarna. You have a long driveway and get a lot of snow so you need a snow thrower that will last and is dependable.
If you want to spend the money an Ariens Professional 32 or 36 inch would be the perfect choice.
By the way, please stay away from the 33 or 45 inch Cub Cadet. It won’t hold up for you. I do like the new 34 inch Cub Cadet. It’s as heavy duty as the Husqvarna but not as heavy-duty as the Toro or Ariens.
Don
Thanks Paul!- I’ll check out the local dealers once we’ve completed the move.
Eileen Balcom-Vetillo
Hello Paul,
I live just south of Paw Paw, IL . Our driveway is gravel, probably @ 100′ long and where it meets the garage is 3 car widths wide then narrowing to about 2 car widths as it extends toward the road.
We currently have a probably 35 year old John Deere 1032 that is hard starting. My fear is it won’t start when I need it most. It’s time to replace it.
I’ve spent a good amount of time reading what you’ve written @ snow blowers. I’m leaning toward an Ariens either the Deluxe or the Platinum. I will be the one using it the most. My husband always says: “his favorite sound while lying in bed on an early winter morning is that of a snowblower!” Funny guy!
I don’t mind spending the extra $ if it will make my life and job easier on those cold snowy mornings. The snow can drift at the very end of the drive and then there is the pile the county snow plow creates when clearing the road.
I did contact the nearest dealer, who is a good 45 minutes away. They said they would deliver for free. I know the closest Home Depot doesn’t carry the Platinum series. I appreciate your expert advice to guide me to make the right purchase. Thanks.
Paul
Hi Eileen, I wanted to say that every time I go down I-35 it looks like more windmills have popped up. Is the Casey’s still there?
I talked to someone I trust in Mendota and he also told me the best Ariens dealer is over in Sterling/Rock Falls.
I am going to suggest the 2016 Ariens 28 SHO Model 921048. It has plenty of power and it very easy to use. Price around $1400. Ariens changed the balance of the snow blower this year so please make sure you get that model – not the 2015 model. The 2016 model has dark gray rims.
If you want the extra power of the Platinum the Platinum 30 SHO Model 921051 is the 2016 version. It’s really important that you don’t get the older – last year’s version because that one was hard to steer.
Home Depot does not carry either one of these models.
Jason Walsh
Hi Paul, I live in Ottawa Canada and am looking for a new snowblower. My old one was a Craftsman 1650 series B&S 30″ and lasted about 6 years. The wear and tear just got to it. We have a large horseshoe shaped driveway on slight grade approximately 120 feet long and 23 feet wide. I was looking at Ariens Platinum 24 SHO what are your thoughts? Or would you suggest something else?
Paul
Hi Jason, Sorry, I’m running behind this week. I don’t really know what snow blowers you have available. I only deal with the U.S. models.
I can say the 24 Platinum will handle deep snow well but you may want to think about a wider 28 inch because you have such a long driveway. An Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO should be about the same price.
Jason Walsh
Thanks for the reply! I appreciate and you have a great site! The 28″ SHO is about $350.00 cheaper. Again thank for the help…Jason
Dan
Hi Paul,
Love the site! I’m in the market for my first ever snowblower. My driveway is approximately 120ft long and is 30ft wide for the most part. Towards the back (last 25ft of length), it doubles in width to 60ft wide. I’d have to clear maybe 120-150ft of sidewalk too. I live halfway between Philadelphia and Allentown, PA – so somewhere in the 22-33in average snowfall – but it seems like we usually get one good size snowfall per year.
I can’t decide between the Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO or the Toro SnowMaster 824 QXE. My driveway has zero hills all asphalt, I’d prefer to get as close as possible to the asphalt and we don’t get a huge amount of snow – all pluses for the Toro. But even at the 30ft wide part of my driveway, I’ll need to launch the snow over 30ft from the one side to get it on the grass (if I don’t want to blow the area twice). So that makes me want the power of the Ariens. On the 60ft wide section, I can send snow to either side.
The “Tim the Toolman” in me wants the Ariens – but the Toro might be a smarter choice (and cheaper). If my driveway was narrower, I think I’d definitely go Toro…but concerned about the width. What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Dan
Paul
Hi Dan, Sorry, I’m running behind this week.
By Both! Really…that used to be very common. Homeowners would buy a 2-stage for the deeper stuff and end-of-driveway snow. They would also have a single stage around for the 2-5 inchers.
You are correct, the SnowMaster 824 will have to throw some of the snow twice but with the extra power over a 724 it won’t mind.
Personally, I suggest buying the SnowMaster first. It will handle 80% of the snows you get and it is definitely faster on the light snow falls. If you have a neighbor with a 2-stage buy him/her fuel and hot chocolate to help you out if you get a big snow.
After a year or two you can then decide if you want to add a 2-stage to your arsenal.
Mike
Hi Paul,
First I want to echo what everyone else says here and from what I’ve read outside of your site. Very informative, helpful, well written, etc. For both Moving Snow and Today’s Mower. I just enjoy reading and learning even if I’m not in the market for one thing or the other.
My comment is I’m looking to buy a new snow blower this year, no surprise, and I’ve looked at a few Ariens, Toro, Husqvarna, Sears and Simplicity. From your articles I know what size and power range I need for west/central New Jersey and the areas I need to clear.
Based on the dealer I’m interested in either a Simplicity 27″ medium duty or 26″ heavy duty. But you don’t seem to have many comments/reviews on the Simplicity/Briggs brand. Are they any good? My other choices would be Ariens 28″ deluxe or Toro 26″ (standard or HD). Or Sears 88173 as my budget/back to basics choice, Though I’m not a fan of MTD products for durability.
Would Simplicity not be as good a choice as the Ariens or Toro? I am concerned about the auto steer issue having read about some folks having trouble controlling it.
Also FYI, Simplicity and Briggs do state some of their models have gear transmissions. Since no one else has that, are they any good?
Sorry, long post.
Thanks for the effort you do that most of us can’t.
Mike
Paul
Hi Mike, Sorry, I running a little behind this week.
I’ll say this right up front so as many people as possible can read it. The Auto-Turn issue with the Ariens 28 and 30 inch snow blowers has been fixed. The balance on this years models is better and that makes the auto-turn work well. Toro uses the same system in 4 of their snow blowers and they don’t have an issue.
Husqvarna/Honda use hydro’s in the expensive models. Simplicity/Briggs uses a CVT gearbox with poly gears in some of their models (made by the same company as the auto-turn) Yes, the gearbox is one of the best parts of the snow blower. Everyone else who has a 6 speed transmission uses a metal geared friction drive transmission. These friction drive trannys have been around forever and just work.
Simplcity’s 27 inch design is the oldest on the market. It’s the same snow blower that John Deere had. We don’t have many comments or reviews because nobody is interested in buying the Simplicity unless they have a dealer next door. Is the Simplicity any good? It’s good enough that Briggs kept the product when they moved the plant from the east coast to Milwaukee. The 26 inch I think is the old Snapper (?)
Briggs just added the Briggs name (gray) a couple of years ago. They have been selling well at Amazon and are getting very good ratings.
Mike
Thanks Paul that helps a lot.
You’re the best!!
James Mcarthur
Hi there Paul, after my 11 year old snow beater died this fall on start up I dug up your sight. And I have learned sooo much that I never knew. Now that I have done 3 days of research I have now bought last winters model of the snowmaster 724 QXE. Thank you so much for the indepth reviews and personal research you have done. Toro realy does owe you a big thank you.
Paul
Hi James, Thank you!
Mike
Hi Paul, and greetings from Oswego NY, situated directly on the shore of Lake Ontario. I discovered your fantastic website in August, and have spent many hours since reading the articles and comments. Very informative and most interesting!
I was in need of a new snowblower this year, and after reading your excellent review of the Toro Power Max HD 826 OXE (38805) and how it compared with others of it’s size, class, and features, I knew this would be the perfect machine for my needs and a purchase I’d feel good about. So of course, I went out and bought one!
Most all of the reasons you listed at the start of your review applied in my case… and the fact the machine is so well balanced really sealed the deal, especially since I’m no longer able to easily handle the larger units or ones lacking power steering features. I was truly amazed when I actually felt in person just how much different this unit would be to operate from a physical maneuverability standpoint with its weight being centered so directly over the wheels. And you’re right…the joystick chute control is far superior and more convenient than any other setup requiring two separate functions to operate.
Anyway… I was killing some time tonight watching a few online videos of people using or demonstrating Toro machines, and heard two things which I recall being questioned by you or perhaps another in one of your other comment sections. In one, I believe you had stated that you didn’t know why the HD826 38805 wasn’t listed as being OHXE like the 928/1028 models. The dealer ( I think) in the video I saw stated that the letter (H) stood for heated grips, which as you know, the 38805 doesn’t have. So, maybe this might help clear that up?
Secondly, I recall reading another comment within your site by a reader who wondered why his blower threw snow better to the right than the left. I heard what sounded to be a most logical reason for this described in another video. According to that source, it’s because of the direction the impeller spins. When throwing to the right, the curvature of the chute and the impeller are pretty much going in the same direction in sync with each other, versus throwing to the left where the snow hits the chute against the rotation of the impeller. What do you think? Keep up the great work…love your site!
Paul
Hi Mike, I was at the nation’s largest lawn & garden show last week, GIE-EXPO in Louisville so I have gotten behind on answering comments.
I’m really glad that you were able to decide the right snow blower for you. Thanks for letting us know about why there is no “H” and why the snow may throw better in one direction. You are correct on both.
Feel free to stop back if you have any questions or if you would like to let us know how well your new Toro works. I know you will really like it.
Ryan
Hi Paul,
I live in Analomink, PA 18301. Winters vary here, but I can get home at odd hours and might need to plow the paved driveway after it has been snowing all day, or possibly even after it has sat overnight, though that’s unusual.
Our driveway is 16′ at the narrowest, 35′ at the widest, and about 105′ long. It slopes, perhaps 15 degrees.
I’d like to be able to knock it out in under an hour and a half if possible. I don’t have any specific budget but want something that is quality, well built, easy to use, and a good value for the money spent.
Thanks!
Ryan
Paul
Hi Ryan, That area of the country is so beautiful!
You average about the same snow fall as Chicago (about 40 inches) so a good 2-stage snow blower is a great choice. You don’t “need” a heavy duty one. The slope of your driveway concerns me a little. I want to suggest a track drive but most of them are very expensive.
The only realistically priced one is the Storm Tracker™ 2890 Snow Thrower at Northern Tool. Ariens and Husqvarna both make good track drives also but they are over $2000.
If you don’t want to go with a track drive then tha good choice is the Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO 28 in. 2-Stage Gas Snow Blower Model# 921048 or Platinum 30 SHO, Model# 921051 at your local Ariens Dealer. The Platinum is overkill but it can blow any snow you get as fast as you can walk. You may have to purchase the optional tire chains for these wheeled snow blowers to get up and down you slope.
Ryan O'Rourke
Thanks Paul. It is beautiful here. I went out to check, and may have exaggerated the slope slightly. I’m thinking there’s a 15×15 section with that 15 degree slope and the rest is probably closer to 5 degrees. Not sure if that changes anything.
I should also mention that if I have any hesitation on buying a track model, it’s likely due to 2 possibly false perceptions that I have on them:
They are hard to move around the garage without turning them on.
They are slower to work (other than in a situation where they are helping you get uphill).
Are these true? Are there advantages to the non-track model? I do wish the Platinum was available in 28″ on the Ariens. 24″ seems too small, and 30″ a touch too big.
I don’t have any problem buying a track unit if it will be advantageous. 28″ does seem like the best size for me weighing speed with garage space. Thanks!
Paul
@Ryan, Sorry, I’m running behind this week. Track Drives really don’t move well without the engine running. I made a small 4 caster moving dolly with a plywood top that I drive the Husqvarna on for the summer. It moves around great on that.
They appear slower because you have to drive them. You can’t push or pull them out on the driveway. You can’t manhandle them into submission 🙂
If you buy an Ariens wheeled snow blower there are two things you can do if it does not have enough traction. 1. Tire chains. They do scratch your concrete or patio. or 2. Add the tracks later. The track kit fits all the models and costs the same as if you are buying the unit with them installed.
Ryan
Paul, I’ve been thinking long and hard on your advice. I keep going one way or the other. I notice the price on the Storm-Tracker has come down $50 recently, which is nice. But if the wheeled Ariens works for my needs, I’d prob go that route due to the ease of moving it around while it’s turned off. Ariens also strikes me as having a superior build quality and reputation over Troy-Bilt. I like that the Ariens has the option to converted to a track unit if the wheels gave me trouble. Though, oddly, it doesn’t list the 921048 as being compatible. http://www.snowblowersdirect.com/Ariens-72101800/p11297.html
Also on the 921048, I see Halogen headlights listed as an option. Does that mean it does or does not include them? They probably won’t make the decision, as I could just use a headlamp, but it’s certainly nice to have. I do see the Storm-Tracker 2890 has them included. as well as hand-warmers, wihch is another nice feature, though again would not be a deal-breaker either way. Are these heated hand grips easy to install, and work just as good as on the Trou-Bilt? Maybe just sold as an option to keep the price down for people who don’t want/need them? http://www.snowblowersdirect.com/Ariens-72101400/p7272.html
Thanks again for the help, Paul.
Paul
Hi Ryan, Is a Chevy built better than a Dodge? Is a Dodge 3/4 ton better than a Ford 1/2 ton? The answer is: It depends on the application. For the money both the Ariens and the Troy-Bilt make good residential snow blowers but remember Troy-Bilt only makes residential snow blowers. Ariens makes economy, residential, heavy duty, heavy duty deluxe and Professional models. Troy-Bilt is a good value for a homeowner – so is an Ariens Deluxe.
I strongly advise that you buy from your local Ariens dealer or Home Depot. Why? Because if you buy through Home Depot you also get local dealer support. You DO NOT get local dealer support through that online business. They/you are on their/your own if you have any problems. I also don’t suggest buying an Ariens snow blower on Amazon because Amazon is not selling them – a third party is.
Snow Blowers direct’s website is out-of-date. That’s why they don’t list the current snow blower models for the tracks or the hand warmer kits. I actually don’t know if that old handwarmer kit will fit on the new models.
I have not installed an Ariens hand warmer kit. I know the Platinum heated grips are a good as the Troy-Bilt ones. If I need heat I buy the “Hot Hands” hand warmer packets at WalMart and put them in my gloves.
Steve
Hi, Paul.
You stated on one of your replies on 10/29/16 “I strongly advise that you buy from your local Ariens dealer or Home Depot. Why? Because if you buy through Home Depot you also get local dealer support. You DO NOT get local dealer support through that online business. They/you are on their/your own if you have any problems.”
Does this mean if I purchase from LOWES, or an online place like snowblowersirect, speedway sales, or even snowblowersource I will not get support for my Ariens from a dealer to repair it if something goes wrong?
Am I understanding this wrong?
If so, does this also apply to Toro?
Thank You
Paul
Hi Steve, Ariens has it set up where a local dealer supports the Home Depot stores. In most cases, they actually set up and deliver the product (They call it the white glove service) If you have problems you may have to go into your Home Depot to find which dealer is their support but, yes you take it right to the dealer.
I don’t know about Lowes and their relationship with Ariens. Lowes has been grabbing as many brands as they can. So, the repair/warranty procedure is not listed on their website and I don’t have a Lowes withing 100 miles of where I live to ask. But with other brands that Lowes sells you have to take the machine to the Lowes you bought it from. A truck comes once a week or so and picks up your item and delivers it to a repair center. That repair center may be up to 150 miles from your Lowes store. Yes, your Ariens warranty card in your Operator’s packet states any Ariens dealer but just remember – Ariens dealers like many other brands are independently owned franchises. They may have to work on the equipment you bought from the big box store but don’t expect them to like it. Don’t expect them to service your warranty work before their own customers.
The only online stores that I am sure are good to work with I have listed on the “how to support MovingSnow” page. The other websites are not always forthcoming as to their actual affiliation with a brand and if they are vetted to be able to sell a brand anywhere in the U.S. For example, Toro has been very restrictive of companies selling on the web. Instead Toro had the webpage where you could buy – they then sent that buy order to your local dealer. That way you could have the legendary Toro experience. Buying from a dealer 1000 miles away that does not have a nationwide service network can be an issue.
So, assume that if you buy online from anyone other than Sears and Home Depot that you will have to go back to the company/store you purchased the item from for any repairs or warranty work. Some of the websites you listed may have warranty repair deals set up with local dealer but don’t assume that. Above all don’t get roped into the trap of “Oh – We’ll take care of you!”
In fact, if you ask the website about local service and they say, “Yes” I STRONGLY suggest going to that local dealer first and making sure they will help you. Why, because you can’t assume these sites are looking out for you. I can go on here with many examples but just remember – Be cautiously informed.
One final note, Amazon. I’ve talked about this every year because I want you to really understand. Amazon sells snow blowers and the service/warranty after the sale is just the absolute best. They are authorized to sell certain brands like Troy-Built, Husqvarna, Poulan Pro. I just had a personal instance yesterday where they could not get an order correct. They kept shorting the quantity. They let me keep the partial orders and refunded all the money!
But other companies also sell products on Amazon. We call them third party sellers. Those third party sellers can be great or they can be just horrible. You need to read the reviews of the seller before you buy. For example, Toro does not sell snow blowers through Amazon but there are Toro Snowmaster’s available to buy. Those third party sellers are general merchandise companies and do not have any agreement with Toro for warranty work.
Ryan
Replying here because my browser won’t extend our chat any deeper. All valid points you make. I did not realize the 921048 could be bought through Home Depot. I don’t see it on their website. I will give them a call and see if it can be special ordered. Thanks.
Paul
Ryan, I was being generic. Don’t buy an Ariens online except through Home Depot. At this point in time they are the only online store that refers warranty issues to your local dealer. The 921048 is a dealer only model so Home Depot doesn’t sell it. I have no clue why or how snowblowerdirect has it.
Denise
Hi Paul, I live in Syracuse, NY and have a 2 car driveway aprox 100′ long. We get a lot of lake effect as well as heavy slushy snow during the winter. I am looking at the Airens Deluxe 28 SHO. Can you tell me the difference between the model 921044 and model 921048. The only thing I can see is one has the Gen 3 motor. The difference in price is $300 around here and just wondering if there is that big of a difference in performance with the Gen 3. Thanks
Paul
Hi Denise, The 921044 is a 2015 or older model. The 921048 is the current 2016 model.
The 921048 has a minor change to it that changes the center of balance. That change makes it easier to drive.
The 921044 is a great snow blower and I liked it a lot. But, many people stated with the automatic steering that it wanted to wander around and was difficult for a few people to keep in a straight line. The fix was to add the Ariens Poly Skid Shoes and then the problem went away. Ariens change that balance this year so everyone can use the snow blower.
Both machines retail for $1419 and most dealer discount the current model to $1199. Since the 921044 is an older model it should be discounted below that $1199. So when you say there is a $300 difference I’m guessing the 921044 is about $999?
Both of these models are dealer only so you can’t get them at a retail store like The Home Depot. But, if the prices don’t match what I stated there are 4 other dealers in Syracuse to talk to.
Denise
Thank you.
Paul
Hi Paul, awesome site! From everything I’ve read, I’m leaning towards a two-stage Toro but having trouble narrowing down a specific model (Power Max options vs. Power Max HD options). I am located in Maryland, just north of Washington DC. Flat driveway, about 18’x60′, some side walk and a concrete patio out back. Also, I tend to find myself helping out neighbors in the bigger storms (only by shovel to date), so the unit may get a little more of a workout than just my property. Thanks in advance!
Paul
Paul
Hi Paul! Honestly, you don’t get enough snow to really warrant a PowerMax HD. The Toro PowerMax 826 OXE is a good choice. It has all the features of the HD models including automatic steering. It just has smaller tires and a little less weight. It will handle you and your neighbor’s driveways just fine.
Paul
Sounds like a plan. Thank you Paul, appreciate the guidance!
Mark
Paul,
I posted a question in the comments a few days ago but it is still showing as awaiting moderation. I don’t know if it didn’t go through for some reason. I’ll repost it below.
Paul, Great site. I need a little advice in picking a snowblower. I live in Burke Virginia which looks to get about 20″ a year avg snowfall. Of course we had a couple of large storms the last few years. I live on a cul-de-sac which the city doesn’t plow, except to plow the adjacent street and push it all up into our entrance resulting into large end of driveway piles. It is about 270′ long with a medium slope and has 4 houses on it. It will be myself and one neighbor that will do the road and driveways.
Looking at your site it looks like I need a 28-30″ unit with at lease a 250-290cc engine. One key factor is that my wife may have to sometimes use it if I am away so weight and/or maneuverability is a factor. I’ve been able to see a few brands in person and had a few general observations.
Ariens +heavy duty. – heavy
Honda +heavy duty, light/maneuverable. – expensive
Toro + good value, light/maneuverable. – didn’t like the amount of plastic, the drive triggers appeared flimsy,
Husqvarna +heavy duty, seems comparable to Ariens – fewer dealers, poor reputation in my area
I’m considering at the Ariens platinum SHO 30, Husq ST330P, and the Honda HSS928A. Am I on the right track? Anything else I should be considering? Are these to much machine for my needs? Appreciate your advice.
Mark
Paul
Hi Mark, You have quite a bit to clear so I want to suggest a snow blower that will last you more than a few years. The biggest problem for you is finding a machine that can handle the amount of area you have to clear and will last years is a big priority but you don’t get a lot of snow most of the time so buying a big commercial unit may not be the best choice.
In other words, I’d quickly suggest two models. They will handle the snow, last for years, anyone can use them and for the amount of area you have to clear – a good value.
1. An Ariens Professional 32 Sno-Thro, Model# 926071. At $2499 it’s a good deal on a machine that will last. Power-wise it’s a huge over-kill and you will complain about filling the fuel tank twice to clear your cul-de-sac. It will clear the snow plow piles without a wimper. If you dealer can’t get one go with the Professional 28.
2. Toro PowerMax HD 1028 OHXE. The 1028 is also a commercial grade snow blower for around $1800. It has plenty of power but not over kill like the Ariens and it will handle anything you get including the snow plow drifts. People will enjoy using it. If you would like to use less fuel the 928 model is also a good choice. Read my review here http://movingsnow.com/2015/2015-toro-power-max-hd-1028-ohxe-38802-review-you-cant-go-wrong-with-this-heavy-duty-snow-blower/
The the power steering is designed on the Toro so there is no wear on the triggers. They don’t get stiff or hard to pull so you don’t have to worry about them ever breaking. The Toro is “over-engineered” to the point that nothing ever breaks on the HD machines.
By the way. We don’t know if the Honda is heavy-duty or not. It had a Samsung Galaxy Note 7 Crisis and they recalled all of them last winter. The problem is supposedly fixed.
Mark
Thanks for the advice.
Tony
Hi Paul – I live in southeast Minnesota, and have a 3-car driveway in a cul-de-sac, so everyone seems to get a little extra snow at the end of their driveway from the plow. I’ve had a 24″ snow devil for the last couple years, and while it did an OK job, it couldn’t handle the snow at the end of the driveway at all. I’d like to move up to an Ariens deluxe 28″ with the 254cc engine, but wondering if I’ll need more power to get through the end of the driveway, like with the Deluxe SHO 306cc or Platinum with the 369cc? Price is certainly a factor so I’m hoping the Deluxe 28″ will work, but also don’t want to regret the purchase. Thanks! – Tony
Paul
Hi Tony, personally, I like the Deluxe 28 SHO. It has a little more power and the high output impeller. You will be amazed at how far it throws snow. After owning the Snow Devil the Ariens will absolutely amaze you.
Erik
(Paul, this is a re-post – sorry, I inadvertently replied to someone else’s post. Please delete the repost – I also added a question to the end of this post).
Paul, thank you so much. I have enjoyed your reviews and comments on both MovingSnow and TodaysMower…I live near State College, PA (theoretically 46-48 inches?) and have an approximately 100 foot long side entry driveway. I also have a 30 inch or so wide sidewalk.
I have I just purchased the 50 inch Craftsman Pro GT 20443 model (thank you for your comments and recommendations). I am looking to purchase a snow thrower and planned to purchase the Craftsman 42 inch 486.24837 attachment for my GT.
The question is does this make sense or just get a standalone thrower? I like the idea of one engine and being able to run the tractor and maintain it over the year rather than having two engines I have to start and stop throughout the year? I do have the smaller width walkway that the tractor won’t help with but that to me is minor; however, it is a thought to consider.
Additionally, I have been trying to figure out if I do purchase the craftsman thrower do I need the attachment kit 11904 like the Fit Kit says or is this really only need for older craftsman models. I read the instructions and it seems like the only two pieces that the kit includes that the thrower does not is Frame Supports, but the instructions only state to install these on the older Craftsman 247.28884 and 28885 models, which are 2011-2013 versions. I did contact Sears Parts Direct (SPD) but they are often just reading back exactly what the manual tells you versus having any practical knowledge.
I also plan to purchase wheel weights if I go with the attachment and was wondering your thoughts on the (2) – 30 lb weights per the fit up chart or getting (2) – 55 lbs weights that according to SPD should fit as they are universal; however, my concern is they are not listed on the recommended fit up chart. My driveway has a very slight slope (less than 5 percent).
Thank you again for your thoughts and experience.
Erik
Paul
Hi Erik, I like the 20443 a lot!
1. If you look under the seat you will find the model number. Your’s starts with 247 so yes, it does require the attachment kit. All models that start with 917 (2004 and newer) don’t need the kit. Sears does not have a kit for tractors older than 2004 or the Preminum tractor made my Simplicity (all black about 2012)
2. The 30 lb kit is for 917. lawn tractors (20 inch tires). The 55 lb kit is for 917. Garden Tractors (24 inch tires). Again, your tractor is a 247 so it uses the rear weight kit. Rear Weight Kit. Unfortunately the wheel rims doe not have the mounting holes for any rim weights.
3. It’s a job to switch it over every fall and spring. I’d say 4-6 hours to mount it the first time and then 2 hours after that. Because of the universal fit you’ll end up with about 10 lbs of brackets, bolts, and belts you will never need. Once you’ve done the job and have a place to store all the parts you can probably take it off and put the deck on in the spring in about an hour.
Here is what I suggest.
At 100 feet it really is not that bad to clear with a walk behind. Using a 28-30 inch you’ll be able to clear it and the sidewalks most of the time in 30 minutes. My first choice for State College and your size driveway would be the Craftsman 30″ 357cc Dual-Stage Snowblower w/ EZ Steer Electric 4-Way Chute Control. My experience with State College is you don’t get a lot of heavy, wet snow. Most of your snow is almost too dry to make snow balls so this snow blower will easily handle any snow you get there. The 88396 has been around for a long time and really just works well. Put SeaFoam in the gas or use TruFuel for the last tank of the season and it will last years.
Do you still want to sit down to clear you driveway? Sometime, buy the Craftsman Snow and Dozer Blade 16 in. High or the MTD Genuine Parts 46-Inch Snow Blade Attachment. Use the blade for 4 inches or less and the snow blower to clean up and clear the 1 or 2 big storms you get. You will still need the weight kit and chains
Erik
Paul, as you are going through all your comments to respond to them hopefully I can give one more question before you answer mine. You stated that the “Troy-Bilt use a thinner steel but stamps channels into the steel to give it the same strength”…I do not see this same stamping in the Craftsman version. Do you have concerns with the Craftsman model or do they have an equally strong housing. Thank you again.
Paul
Hi Erik, I’ve only seen one Craftsman 88173 with caved in sides. And those idiots were trying to blow sawdust with the snow blower.
So, no, I am not concerned.
Erik
Paul, thank you – Hmmm…where did you see that?
Not sure if it is on my end or not but my post disappeared again today when you started responding so I am re-posting (sorry if it is there and you are planning to respond).
Lots of great information for me to consider…makes sense…almost feel silly getting the big garden tractor then, but I purchased it almost a year ago (great black Friday sale – then our house took longer to build than expected…) and made the price similar to the smaller units and your rave reviews of the 20443 pushed me to get it anyway.
Anyway, makes sense with the walk-behind…I started looking into the Craftsman 88396 Troy-Bilt Troy-Bilt Storm 3090 Xp 357cc (since you mentioned they were similar on your Top 20 Post…and Troy-Bilt was on sale at Lowes for 15% off and then I had an additional 10% off. I have not picked it up yet… So, now I was on Sears today and the Craftsman 88396 is on sale and with other discounts and it takes it to the same price as the Troy-Bilt ($970 essentially). As they are both similar pricing which do you truly prefer? Based on CR Troy-Bilt is less repair prone, but what does that really mean? It seems like both are pretty similar…you do not get the heated hand grips on the Craftsman model. Anything else?
Now, with this said, I also have $200 in Shop Your Way bucks I can use on this Craftsman to drop it even more…but I would rather hear your thoughts with the pricing equal.
Thank you, again. Erik
Paul
Hi Erik, I answered your post on 10/10. Please, look down through these comments until you get to that date.
Terry Moyer
HI PAUL IM NEW TO THIS SO YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE. I JUST BOUGHT A CRAFTMAN LAWN TRACTOR MINUS ENGINE FOR $40. I WANT TO PUT A BIGGER ENGINE IN IT AND A SNOWBLOWER ON IT. THE MODEL # 917270641 AND THE SERIAL # 012698D001560 THE NUMBERS ARE NOT ON THE TRACTOR BUT THE AD HAD A PIC OF THE TAG WHERE WOULD THE TAG BE NORMALLY AND WHATS THE BIGGEST SIZE ENGINE I CAN PUT IN IT ? IT WAS A 16 HP BUT ID LIKE TO GO A LITTLE BIGGER WITHOUT BEING TOO MUCH FOR THE TRANS-AXLE TO HANDLE.ALSO WHAT YEAR IS IT AND WHAT SNOWBLOWER SHOULD I LOOK FOR?
Paul
@Terry, That is a 1998 lawn tractor. If you really want to install a snow blower I would find a garden tractor because 1. the frames on the model you got are really to light – they will crack. 2. the steering on that tractor is not heavy duty enough and you will constantly strip out the pinion gear.
If that tractor had a single cylinder engine the largest you can install is another single. The 18 hp Briggs Intek is the replacement. If that 16 hp was a twin the largest engine that will go in it is the 19 hp opposed twins. They don’t make that engine anymore. The current v-twin engines won’t fit.
Michael
I live in Livingston NJ (based on one of your links approximately 30 inches of snow/year), I have a circular driveway with the top part by the garage approximately 42 x 53 and the two ends about 12 x 50. I’ve been looking at the Ariens Deluxe (Regular and SHO) or Platinum vs the Toro Power Max HD. While not in the more northern and higher snow fall areas of the country, I still want a snow thrower that will last, throw the snow off the larger part of my driveway (I had to throw it 3 or more times during the 2 ft storm last year), blast through the end of driveway pile from the plow, while being easy enough to use for my kids. Which one do you recommend.
Paul
Hi Michael, The Ariens Deluxe 28 SHO or Toro PowerMax HD 928 are equal for throwing about 50 feet under most conditions and would do the job well. If you wanted to go “overboard” just a little the Ariens Platinum 30 SHO or Toro HD 1028 will throw snow 55 feet . If you want the Ariens 30 makes sure you are getting the 2016 Model 921051.
Michael
Thank you for the quick reply. Do you favor one over the other? The Ariens deluxe 28 SHO is about $1,200 vs the Toro 928 at $1,500 while the platinum SHO is the same price as the 1028 at $1,800.
Paul
Hi Michael, No, I have no preference. Go to your local dealers and pick the dealer you like best.
JP
Hi,
I live North of the border in beautiful Québec, Canada. We receive a good 10 feet of snow every winter. I have a two car driveway and sidewalk for a total area of 700 sq. feet with a good slope. Therefore, I ma looping for a tracked model. What would you recommend in my case? Are you familiar with Yamaha snowblower which seems very interesting in my opinion
Paul
Hi JP, I am familiar with the Yamaha. It a good machine but is kind of stuck in the 1990’s tech. A lot of the manufactures have higher output machines that are a lot easier to use. Yamaha quit selling in the U.S. around 1995. We were unwilling to pay the high prices they want.
I have two machines that compare to the Yamaha YS1028J. That is a 10 hp 296 cc engine. They rate it a 60 tons per hour and a max throwing distance of 55 ft. Cost is $4299 Canadian
1. Ariens Platinum SHO 28 Track Model 921052, 369 cc engine, 70 tons per hour and 55 feet max throw. Cost is $2309 U.S. (6 speed manual trans)
2. Ariens Professional Track 28 Model 926067, 420 cc engine, 79 tons per hour, and 60 feet max throw. Cost is $3299 U.S. ( Hydro Trans) I really have to say this may be the most powerful snow blower on the market. And, it’s built like a tank.
JP
How these two model compare with the Husqvarna ST-327T (3100 CAD) , Honda HSS928ACTD (4424 CAD) and the club cadet 3x28HDTE (2200 CAD). The Ariens retail at 3002 CAD and 4289 CAD. Is the price premium for the Ariens pro really worth it?
Thanks
Paul
@JP, of all the machines you mentioned the Ariens Pro is the only commercial snow blower.
If your snow gets hard (comes down wet and then freezes) you won’t like the Cub Cadet 3X. I wish Cub Cadet had the new HD 2-stage in a track.
The Honda is just overpriced. Is it any good? They had a problem with the design so they didn’t have enough of them for sale last year for anyone to get an opinion. What we’ve seen so far though is machines costing half as much do a better job.
The ST327T is an all around good snow blower. I like the hydro that’s in it, The track drive is the heaviest built. It has an excellent engine and plenty of power. I didn’t mention it because it was not available up there last year. I like it better than the 30 inch ST330T.
kumar
Hi Paul,
I am unable to decide between Toro SnowMaster 824 QXE and Powermax 826 OXE Model #37781. I live in Detroit area and have a three car driveway. I am thinking to go with Powermax to be on the safer side but I am not sure if it handles 1-2 inches of snow decently if not better than the SnowMaster. Please advise!
Paul
Hi Kumar, I’m running a little behind this week so I apologize for taking so long.
The 826 OXE will handle the 1-2 inches and it really depends how rough your drive is. If it’s smooth you can drop the scraper bar on the 826 right down to the pavement and it will clean. If your pavement is rough you will have to have the gap between the scraper and the ground higher so it doesn’t catch. That will leave more snow. The Snowmaster’s scraper bar rides on the pavement all the time so it will clean a little better.
I have quite a few people using the SnowMaster in Detroit and they love it. It’s so fast to use. The only time I would not suggest it is if you get deep drifts regularly that are 24 inches or deeper.
kumar
Thank you for your response. I appreciate it.
Chandra
Hi Paul, Thanks for the good information on the site. I live in Akron, Ohio. My driveway (2 car) is about 50 X 15 ft. I dont have much exposure to Snow Blowers. What Snow Blower can you can recommend for me. Thanks in advance.
Paul
Hi Chandra, I’m running a little behind this week so I apologize for taking so long.
If your driveway is paved I suggest the Toro SnowMaster 724 QXE 24 in. Gas Snow Blower. It’s very easy to use and will get your area cleared in a few minutes.
If your driveway is no paved I suggest the Husqvarna ST224P at Amazon. By the way if you do go this route the “Include 2 Additional Years of Protection for $66.94” is a steal.
Steve
Paul,
I live in Denver,, Colorado. I have a 3 car driveway, Live on a corner lot that faces north. Removing snow to the surface is a must, lots of kids walk to the bus stop, so I want my sidewalks clear. Do not get much help from the sun to help melting.
Have it narrowed to 2 single stage units.
The Ariens Path Pro 938033 and the Toro 721 QZR. However I have heard that Toro discontinued the 721 QZR. (If true, why?) If its discontinued, should I still buy?
What I like about the Ariens, I have seen the lower model without chute control in person @ lowes, so I have no experience with the chute control of the Ariens. Was told they can have there issues. I was told by an Ariens / Toro dealer that the chute has multiple clips that fall out of alignment and it doesn’t not work and hold up near as good at the Toro’s quick chute design
Exposed engine.
Plastic door on top of unit to fill the oil and gas.
Has fuel shutoff so you can run dry at last use
Larger pneumatic tires
Engine guard
3yr warranty (I was told by local dealers, right now Ariens are giving a 2yr extended warranty for free, making it a 5yr warranty)
Electric Start
What I don’t like about the Ariens
Solid scraper bar. However the scraper is adjustable. The Toro has its Pivoting scraper bar is much better, not hitting all the uneven spots on the concrete. Since Ariens scraper bar is adjustable, maybe you can adjust it to not hit the concrete?
208cc – Smaller engine than the Toro, however 4cc shouldn’t make a noticeable difference.
What I do like about the Toro QZR721
Patented Pivoting scraper
Quick Shoot on Handle. Nothing compares to Toro’s design. On the Ariens, the chute control is harder, when you push it down to turn the chute, it has notches it sits in, it clicks to the next setting.
Zip deflector to adjust the snow’s height. Once again, Nothing compares to Toro’s design. On the Ariens, its just like all the other single stage out there. It has a wing nut you need to loosen each time in order to adjust.
212cc engine.
What I don’t like about the Toro QZR721
Enclosed engine, making changing plug harder.
Oil fill, harder to check and a pain to fill
No fuel shut off
Standard 2yr warranty. The Ariens, all models come with a standard 3yr warranty.
Engines – Ariens uses LCT and Toro uses Loncin. Cannot find out much about Loncin, however there is a bunch of info on LCT.
I have read on forums, and some reviews that the Toro 721 has had issues with snow blowing back under the scraper? Is this true, have you heard of this?
Paul I have followed your site, and since you have so much experience I would appreciate your view.
Thank You,
Paul
Hi Steve, Toro hasn’t discontinued the 721 QZR but it looks like Home Depot is going to carry just the 721 QZE. Most people want electric start and HD’s price is only $20 more than QZE model is most other places. Link: Toro Power Clear 721 QZE 21 in. Single-Stage Gas Snow Blower
Just to confuse things there is one other single stage quick chute I like – the Husqvarna. It’s positive and well designed. But, I hate the snow blower 🙂
Link: Ariens Path-Pro SS21EC 21 in. 208cc Single-Stage Electric Start Gas Snow Blower. I’m not aware that the Ariens has pneumatic tires. All the pictures and the one I used had the plastic 7 inch like everyone else uses. The first year chute control had an issue. It was redesigned. Yes the Toro is the best but I was happy using the Ariens when I tested it.
The Ariens sits differently. What that means is it is easier to work on but harder to drag up stairs than the Toro. The Ariens was designed for the commercial guy who throws it in the back of the truck and abuses it. As a homeowner you’ll only need to change the spark plug every few years – not two or three times a season. Run SeaFoam or another good fuel stabilizer (or TruFuel) and you don’t need a fuel shutoff.
All single stage snow blowers leave a little snow on an inside corner. The Ariens a Toro snow throwers are both tolerable for the snow they leave.
Manufacture warranties do nothing for you. They only cover the major items and don’t cover other 90% that may wear out. Starting issues, belts, paddles, objects breaking parts are not covered. Don’t even list the warranty as part of the criteria when choosing an American made snow thrower.
Steve
Hi, Paul Thank you for your reply.
I have heard that Toro’s Patent expired on the paddle design that they called the “Power Curve Technology” and that a few manufacturers are now copying the paddle desingn from Toro.
I have seen the Ariens path pro lower models in person, but have not compared the Ariens or Toro side by side. From pictures of the new Ariens and the Toro 721’s the paddle design does look really similar.
If this is true about the patent expiring, and since that made the Toro’s much better at throwing snow, then if the Ariens is using the same paddle design as toro then it will come down to the engines and options.
Toro using the Chinese engine Loncin 212cc, and Ariens using the American company LCT that engineers the AX 208cc engines in the US, however manufactures them in there Chinese plant overseas seem to pretty evenly matched.
As for semi-pneumatic tires on Ariens, Ariens boast about them on there website. I have never had anything with semi-pneumatic tires so don’t know how much of a difference they would make.
The specs on Ariens tires show they are bigger than the Toro. Ariens shows they are 7.5 in x 1.75 in, and Toro’s tires are 7 in x 1.5 in.
I think a noticeable difference is the Chute design, toro using the quick shoot and the scraper bar design, where toro is using the pivoting scraper.
I want to make an informed and thought out decision. Luckily I don’t need to deal with any end of driveway snow, I only need to deal with my driveway (not sloped to badly) and my sidewalks.
Thank You
Paul
Hi Steve, May I make a suggestion? Don’t overthink this. Toro and Ariens spend a lot of time engineering, designing, researching, and testing every part of these snow blowers. They are both great single stage units. Because of the issues we had in the mid-2000’s with side valve engines, unleaded fuel and then ethanol they spent many, many hours making sure these engines will last. You are correct, there is no advantage foor one or the other.
The Ariens and the Toro are weighted differently. That means the difference in tire size is not noticeable because of the weigh you push the Toro compared to the Ariens.
I’ve used both here and both throw snow well (better than the Husqvarna single stage) They both clean well. The only thing I’ve noticed is because of the way the Ariens engine guard sits it’s not as easy to pull up steps.
Stan
Hi Paul,
I am purchasing my first snow blower this year. My garden tractor that I used to plow snow for 26 years has died a dignified death after such excellent service. I have 200 feet of side walk, with 150 of it circling a cul-de-sac where snow is piled up by the township crews. The snow from the length of the street gets pushed into the cul-de-sac and onto the sidewalk and my yard. Ironically, I am required to clear the sidewalk within 18 hours of the end of the snowfall.
We have 100 feet of driveway 2 cars wide and a 30 x 30 pad in front of the garage door. We live between Allentown and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and receive a variety of snowfalls resulting in a few inches of heavy wet snow to 3 feet of powdery light snow.
I am older, my wife can’t help shovel, the kids are adults and (fortunately) haven’t lived with us for years, and the grandchildren are too young to help.
From your website and my own personal research, I favor a two stage, 28-32 inches, with amenities.
I am considering Ariens 30″ Platinum SHO, but it has an Ariens motor manufactured in China. I would prefer a Briggs motor but I would have to go up to the Professional Series.
I looked at a Simplicity 30″ Heavy Duty Dual Stage. It is not well balanced and front heavy compared to the Ariens.
I looked at Toro but I don’t like the plastic chutes.
The Cub Cadets had plastic chutes and the metal of the auger box was thinner.
I haven’t looked at a Husqvarna yet.
I have shopped for snowblowers for three weeks now and I am conflicted and no closer to making a decision. What do you recommend?
Thanks,
Stan
Paul
Hi Stan, I’m not going to talk you into one over the other. Instead I’ll give you just a few facts that may help.
1. The Ariens Platinum 30 SHO is just a wonderful machine. It’s over-powered and will blast through the snow plow snow very well. Of course you know it’s gets hard for any snow blower to move that snow if it has froze over night. The 2016 models have dark wheel rims
2. The Briggs engines are also made overseas. The really nice thing about the Ariens/LCT engine is your Ariens dealer can make the repair quickly. With Briggs your dealer needs to get authorization and that can sometimes take a while. I’m also learning that the LCT engines on the Ariens and Husqvarna snow blowers are averaging 3-4 times the life of a conventional Briggs snow blower engine.
3. The Simplicity has been around for a long, long time. Even though it is listed as heavy-duty – it does not have the capacity and strength of the Ariens Platinum.
4. I won’t try to talk you into the Toro. The chute material does not break – ever.
5. The Cub Cadets you are looking at are the residential versions. The heavy duty models at the dealers have metal chutes. I like the Cub Cadets but they will break many more shear pins on your city-plow snow.
6. The Husqvaran 300 series compare to the Ariens Platinum, Simplicity HD, Toro HD and Cub Cadet HD.
Stan
Thanks for all the information in your reply and on your website. I am closer to a final decision. Thanks for taking the time to advise me.
Stan
Jay
Hey Paul, I live in Pulaski NY and need to get a new snow blower. We can get snow for days (really). My drive way is about 20 x 80 plus sidewalk and some yard to get to the gravel driveway. Not sure if the recorded average but can be about up to over 150 inches easy. Please help and let me know what you think. Looking at either a Aries or from what you said maybe a toro now. Thanks Jay
Paul
Hi Jay, it took me a little while to remember why I knew Pulaski, NY but it finally came to me. I hauled equipment through there from Muscatine, IA to the Fort Drum Combat Simulator shortly after 9/11. The snow was so deep that winter the M1A1 tanks at the base were just mounds in the snow.
There are very few areas of the country that regularly get the snow you get. You need the biggest, baddest snow blower on the market. But, you don’t need a wide 28 or 30 inch model.
Minimum: Ariens Deluxe 24 ($1000) or Toro 826 HD ($1400). If you have the money I strongly suggest the Ariens Platinum 24 SHO ($1400). It has the power to throw snow 50 feet and will make quick work of your 20X80 drive (plus extras) The EFI version is the same size but will start and run in any weather ($1600).
Jeremy
Hi, I live in rural northern IL, have a 20 year old craftsman that has seen it’s last winter. I WANT an Ariens Deluxe 28, had one in my hands at HD last winter on clearance for 700, tried to check out and told me it was sold! I know it’s overkill and I don’t need it….still want it though….so looking at CC 524 at costco for 699, and saw toro 724 at same price at HD. I have a fairly steep inclined driveway at around 40 feet/2 car width/concrete. One unique problem is local plow likes to make a giant glacier in front of my mailbox. The old craftsman won’t throw it far, but would carve into it and move it out of the way with some real effort….This will be an ongoing problem so need something that’ll hold up to some abuse from me carving into these..open to any brand, suggestion!
Paul
Hi Jeremy. I’m really glad they are rebuilding Chief Black Hawk at Lowden. I always enjoyed seeing him sticking out of the trees.
Please take a look at the Ariens Deluxe 24. It’s like the 28 inch with a little less size. The smaller size will give you a better power/width ratio. That will help you cut through the mailbox stuff well. The Deluxe 24 is a tough machine and you get a lot more snow blower for only $200 more than the Costco or THD stuff.
If you want to throw it over the neighbors house and down to the main street arch the Ariens Platinum 24 is the way to go. The arch is still there?
Jeremy
Thanks Paul, yep arch still here- Had my eye on the ariens 24 too, HD shows it at 999, so 300 more than the other two and over my budget, but probably worth it- Any difference in the machines with the new logo this year? HD has the 24’s with the old logos, and lowes has the new logos…ones at Lowes look cooler, but I have HD gift cards!
Paul
@Jeremy, If it’s over your budget, save up for another month. We won’t get any real snow until mid-december so you do have time. If you wait HD may have the 2016’s by then. We didn’t have a lot of snow in the midwest last winter so there is some snow blower inventory left over.
There is no noticeable difference in the 24 inch models. The 2016 28 and 30 inch Deluxe and Platinum are better balanced than the 2015 but you won’t notice that difference in the 24 inch. Other than a few cosmetic changes there is no other differences.
Rod Fishkin
Hi Paul. Thank you for your excellent and informative videos and website. Based in part (OK, a large part) on your info and recommendations, I just ordered a Toro 824 QXE which will be stored in a garden shed about 75 ft away from the driveway. I’ll need to move the machine across the “lawn” to get to the driveway for every use. The lawn is mostly dirt and patchy prairie grass that I don’t care about. I read in one of your earlier comments that being a single stage machine, the 824 should not be run on grass or gravel but the video in your yard seemed like the lawn survived OK. Could I just tilt the machine back, avoiding auger paddle-to-dirt contact, while driving it across the lawn to the driveway? Any concerns about tilting back too far and damaging that extended oil drain pipe?
Paul
Hi Rod, You won’t hurt the machine by running it across a lawn. The Personal Pace drive is hard to use on grass though and makes the snow blower jump on grass. You may have to push it using the metal handle under the drive. It will throw the snow.
You can’t tilt it back far enough to damage the oil pipe
Rod
Excellent, thank you. I love it when what I need to know is the same as what I wanted to hear.
Mike
Hello Paul –
Great info on your site, really appreciate all your responses. I am looking at buying my first snowblower for my 1 car wide by 80′ long drive way in Minneapolis, MN. Over the last 2 winters, I have shoveled by hand or used a neighbors single stage a few times (we have been lucky with somewhat mild winters). I also have a new paver sidewalk and patio that I am hoping to clear. Would a single stage or 2 stage be ok on pavers?
I like the idea of a longer throwing distance as there isn’t much space between the driveway, my house or the neighbors house for about 20′ until the front yard.
I was originally thinking of buying a mid-grade toro single stage but after reading your site and learning about the new Toro Snowmaster, I thought that may be the better option between a 2 stage and standard single. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Paul
Hi Mike, I’m glad that you have looked at the SnowMaster because I think it is a excellent choice for you.
The SnowMaster rubs on the ground but it won’t scratch your pavers like most 2-stage machines will. The Poly scraper bar and skid shoes keep t from scratching.
I am going to suggest the TORO SnowMaster 824 QXE. The larger motor does the best job of throwing snow. The 824 I tested here threw snow as far as most 2-stage machines.
Here is a link for Home Depot: TORO SnowMaster 824 QXE.
Jon D
Hi Paul, thanks for the great website! I live in Minneapolis, MN and my driveway is 120 feet long and 24 feet wide. I have an additional 200 feet of sidewalk and 900 square feet of porches (mostly pavers) around my house and garage. I need to throw the snow pretty far because only one side of the driveway has an area to put the snow. Driveway is older asphalt and pretty rough, but not much slope. I can’t go larger than a 26” 2-stage due to the width of the door on my spacious shed. I was considering a Cub Cadet 524 SWE, but also thinking about a heavy duty Toro Power Max HD 826 OXE for the peace of mind when an occasional big, heavy, wet snowstorm hits. I also thought about getting a 2-stage AND a 1-stage for easier maneuverability on the pavers area and for small snowfalls? I’m willing to spend a little more if it means less hassle and stress during the next 20 years I plan to live in this house!
Paul
Hi Jon, The Cub Cadet is a good snow blower but it only throws most snow 30 feet or so on a good day. The Toro Power Max HD will consistently throw snow 30-40 feet or more. You might as well buy the Toro since it’s made on the south side of your town.
Right now my ultimate snow system would be a Toro SnowMaster for most snows and a high output machine like the PowerMax HD for the big snows and clearing a spot in the yard for my dogs. (The SnowMaster is as fast as using a good self-propelled lawn mower but is not designed to clear gravel and turf.)
Robert S Rodgers
A year or so ago I purchased a 28 in Cub Cadet 3 stage snow blower for about $1399.00. I did not need to use it last year for lack of snow. The other day we got about 2 feet in Dutchess County, NY. I started it up and all was well until ? Maybe you can explain what happened ? The front auger works great but the next auger spins freely by hand, It seems to me that it is broken or not connected? The shear pin seems to be in place. There is some type of gear box after the first auger that connects to the next auger. Pissed off because this is the first use!
The machine is a beast. I’m 70 plus years old and it can drag me around ! My driveway is over 500 feet long so I need a beast !
Paul
Hi Robert, You have four shear pins on the 28 inch 3X. One on each side auger flight, one on the front auger flight and one on the rear auger flight. The rear auger flight shear pin is broke. The one end of the shear pin may still be stuck in the hole, but if you spin it around you’ll see the other side is missing.
That is the one weakness in the Cub Cadet 3X snow blowers. Any hard chunk of snow or ice will break the shear pin on the inside auger.
Now, it can be a real pain to replace. When the shear pin breaks – it breaks into three pieces. Two outside pieces that usually fall off and the center piece will usually stay in the hole. Getting that piece out of the hole on that inside auger can be frustrating. Patience, a hammer, a flat end punch, a new shear pin and a strong light are the best tools. I suggest always keeping 4-6 extra shear pins on hand. DON”T use a bolt to replace the pin. You will break other more expensive parts of the snow blower. You can also use a stiff nail with the end cut flat instead of a punch.
Since it’s spring most places may not have the shear pins in stock. You can get them here. Cub Cadet Shear Pins at Amazon
Remove the spark plug boot and tip the snow blower up onto the handles. That will make it a lot easier to see into that area and work on it.
I couldn’t find a video that shows replacing that specific shear pin but I’m going to show you two videos on replacing stubborn shear pins like that one.
Nick
I seem to be the type of person that goes way over kill why I buy stuff. I live in Omaha, Ne and have a driveway the is 46′ X 32′ (64′ of sidewalk) all concrete. I want something that will have no issue clearing the snow and on the very off chance my wife could use it (maybe 1 or 2 storms a season). I have been trying to look for something she could also use on that rare chance. It may not even be worth worrying about this rare chance though. I was originally looking at ariens platenium snowblower measly because the chute control on top (let me clarify, I had determined I wanted ariens, but unsure the ease of the chute control). For me it isn’t a huge issue reaching over, but she is only 5’3″. Once ariens announced the Efi, I’m really interested in that now. Anything recommendations would be great.
Paul
Hi Nick, Do you get a of of drifting? Do you get snows where you have 15-25 inches to clear? The reason I ask is most of the time Omaha doesn’t get a lot of deep snow. You get a lot more snows in the 2-8 inch range. The EFI machines are great but may be over kill for you.
Take a hard look at the Toro SnowMaster. I know your wife will love to use it and it has a lot of power and clearing for it’s size. Please start with this review: Toro SnowMaster 724 QXE, 824 QXE Picture Review.
Ken
Hello Paul, thanks for all the detailed info, very helpful! What is your opinion of the Craftsman 88694 vs, Craftsman 88395? The former is 208cc and 26″ with quiet engine and the latter is 277cc and 28″. Currently (9/4/16), the 28″ is 5 bucks less on sears.com. Seems like the only other difference is the quiet engine on the 26″. I’m south of Boston, got slammed in recent years with huge storms . . . Driveway is over 100′, flat and paved, and ~4 cars across at the house end. I’m into reliability and performance, not bells and whistles . . . Thanks!
Paul
Hi Ken, I always suggest more power for the Boston area. You will like the 88395. It has adequate power and is very easy to use. It’s been a very good, dependable machine!
The 88694 is a good machine for Chicago and areas that only get 60 inches or so a year. The 208 cc engine is only about 6 HP and I know it would not work well for the heavy, deep snows you get up there.
Steve J
Hi Paul,
I live in Buffalo, NY and frequently see snowfalls of 6″+. I have an old 21″ Toro snowblower that came with my house when I bought it two years ago, but I am looking to upgrade. Specifically, I am interested in the Cub Cadet 524 SWE. I have a 70 foot, 2-car wide driveway. Do you think the Cub Cadet is a good buy? They are on sale at my local dealer in September so I’d like to act soon. Thanks.
Paul
Hi Steve, The Cub Cadet 524 SWE at $799 is a good buy. Is it the right snow blower for Buffalo, NY?
Buffalo gets well over 100 inches average snowfall every year. Because of that I normally suggest a heavy duty snow blower for Buffalo. The 524 SWE is in my opinion a medium duty snow blower and I normally recommend it for areas of the country like Chicago that get around 60 inches a years.
One of the better 24 inch heavy-duty snow blowers is the Ariens Model 921045 Internet #207094915 Store SKU #1001827226Deluxe 24 in. 2-Stage Gas Snow Blower
Brad
Hi Paul,
Thanks for all of the good information on your site. I live in Southern MD (south of Washington DC) so we don’t get a lot of snow. However, we usually get 1-2 solid snows at 6-10″ with the occasional larger drop. My problem is a 650′ long single car paved driveway with a slight slope and a medium parking pad. I’m afraid to go too small or it will be faster to wait for the thaw but I also don’t want too much machine for the few times I’ll need it. You suggested Craftsman as a comfortable choice – Craftsman 28″ 277cc Dual-Stage Snowblower w/ EZ Steer is on sale now for $719. Do you think that’s a good fit?
Thank you. Brad
Paul
Hi Brad, I like that choice! The Craftsman 28″ 277cc Dual-Stage Snowblower is a great buy today. That $719 and free delivery is only good for today. Yes, it is a nice size for your area. It will handle the 10 inchers well but it’s not too awkward for the 2-4 inchers.
Also take a look at the Toro SnowMaster. It’s only 24 inches but with throw 1 or 10 inches of snow as fast as you can walk. I’d say that with either one you can get your drive cleared in about the same amount of time. Toro SnowMaster 724 QXE, 824 QXE Picture Review
Brad
Excellent. Thank you so much for your help.
Tim
Hi Paul. Thanks for the info and great site. I live around the Philadelphia area with young children and need to speed up my snow clearing (especially with these recent winters). 4 car drive way on corner property with a ton on sidewalk space. I was looking at craftsman because it’s a little larger than CC and Husq for a little more $$. I narrowed down to the 88394 28″ 243cc machine and the 88396 30″ 357cc at the same price point at $950. Would you recommend the larger machine? I think I saw on your site they stopped production. I don’t care about noise.
Thank you – Tim
Paul
Hi Tim, 30 inch is always better than a 28 if you have a large area to clear. The 88396 is a good choice for Philadelphia.
They did drop it last year but ended up bringing it back because of demand. It’s really hard to find a comparable machine for $1200 – let alone $950. I do suggest getting in ASAP. The extra 5% discount that brings it down to $950 goes off today and they always give you the best deal before the snow season. Just in case Craftsman decides to make a limited quantity this fall I wouldn’t wait.
Here is the link to get the extra 5% and free delivery: Craftsman 30″ 357cc Dual-Stage Snowblower w/ EZ Steer Electric 4-Way Chute Control.
Yes, I would not hesitate to buy one myself if I had a large area to clear.
tim hanlon
Thanks Paul. I was traveling and missed the $50 off sale. I just saw today the 88395 is back too, Craftsman 28″ 277cc Dual-Stage Snowblower w/ EZ Steer. The price seems cheap at $800 compared to the the comments in the article you have on the site. Would the $200 extra be worth it for the 30″ electric chute, or is this $800 as good as it appears? Any idea how long it’s on sale for? Thanks again.
Paul
Hi Tim, For the amount of area you said you have to clear the 30 inch will be the fastest. In addition the 357 engine gives you considerably more power than the 277 so you won’t have to wait for the snow blower to clear the heavy wet snow as much. I feel the Craftsman 88396 30 inch is still a great value at $999. It’s a good machine with a great reputation. And, it $200-$500